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Wow. This may go down as the biggest mistake in our history since claiming independence from Britain.
Well done Trumpees. You got out there and voted.
Liberals... You can't blame Trump for this. You can't blame Republicans for this. You can't even blame the white evangelical neo-nazis posting ridiculous Brexit-like messages on Facebook. This is the Democratic party's fault for "sticking a knife" in Bernie; the people wanted change and you didn't listen.
Roll on 2020 :-)
God, why does everyone have an agenda when they post about politics... and people respond like it will change minds. Talking politics is often a waste of time because of this. Objectivity isn't hard. I just don't get it.
NYS would have been red if NYC weren't included, but it wouldn't have been a landslide. The Albany area, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Rockland, Westchester, and Nassau counties were blue.
BTW, which one of you will be out of landscaping services once they have to hire legit employees paid a living wage? You can forget $25/week once Trump is done. Oh, nevermind, he probably can't follow through.
BTW, which one of you will be out of landscaping services once they have to hire legit employees paid a living wage? You can forget $25/week once Trump is done. Oh, nevermind, he probably can't follow through.
I take care of my own property, thanks. You can keep your illegal landscaper.
I think there are a number of valid reasons for the failure of HRC. I do think right or wrong the Clinton Foundation and the emails scandals hurt her a lot. That coupled with the lack of seriousness with which the Dems thought about Trump til it was too late also helped. Her hiding from the media, with no press conferences and no taking questions is a typical response when ever someone thinks they have upper hand, i.e. the less said the better, let the actions speak for themselves.
I do believe that Trump had a lot of supporters that were not very public in addition to those that were. I kept saying to friends, if you gave me a ticket to see a famous person that I admired and told me that I had to be there at noon to see that person at 5 p.m., I would have done it. If you told me that I had to be there at 7 a.m., I would have said no thanks. Trump people were there at 6 a.m. to get in to see him and it made less than no sense to me that those very same crowds would not go to the polls as many suggested the crowds don't translate to votes. I also think that as many now say, the public was simply tired of politics as usual and Trump showed repeatedly that he was his own man.
Several weeks ago, I was talking with a group of friends and they asked if I thought Joe Biden were the candidate would he do better than Hillary. (remember I now reside in DE where Joe is revered). I said, yes. Today, I am not so sure.
Wow. This may go down as the biggest mistake in our history since claiming independence from Britain.
Well done Trumpees. You got out there and voted.
Liberals... You can't blame Trump for this. You can't blame Republicans for this. You can't even blame the white evangelical neo-nazis posting ridiculous Brexit-like messages on Facebook. This is the Democratic party's fault for "sticking a knife" in Bernie; the people wanted change and you didn't listen.
Roll on 2020 :-)
Why does anyone think Bernie would have done any better than Clinton? The same polls that had Bernie beating Trump are the same polls that had Hillary beating Trump.
NYS would have been red if NYC weren't included, but it wouldn't have been a landslide. The Albany area, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Rockland, Westchester, and Nassau counties were blue.
Let's allow gangs, drug smugglers, pimps and underage whores, and terrorists to freely waltz across the border to the tune of a mariachi band, all to keep our cheap landscaper. Good idea.
Why does anyone think Bernie would have done any better than Clinton? The same polls that had Bernie beating Trump are the same polls that had Hillary beating Trump.
I agree, Bernie would have brought out Republicans even more than HRC.
Bottom line, as someone said, the polling methodology was clearly flawed. When you set up polls looking for an outcome, you are going to be led to believe you'll get that outcome, but you won't necessarily get it in reality. And they were drawing conclusions from certain questions like "Do you think Trump is qualified to be President"? Many people answered no - but the questions wasn't asked in comparison to whom. Also 83% of respondents in that same poll when asked the single most important thing to them when voting this year - "change".
Polls mean nothing if they aren't set up properly, with appropriate sampling and appropriate deciphering.
Just as the 2000 election stopped the media from calling elections TOO early, this election will bring polling methodology back to where it should be.
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