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Old 02-06-2020, 07:37 AM
 
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This is the valid reason:

"But there’s one area where they technically have a point. For example, if you’ve had a DUI you’re unlikely to get approved for Global Entry. With New York state preventing federal agencies from accessing DMV records, the relevant authorities have no way of verifying whether someone is being truthful when they state they haven’t had a DUI."

By NY preventing ALL access it also prevents complete background checks on legal residents and citizens.

Retaliatory or not it's the prerogative of the federal government, just as it's the prerogative of the state government to not provide access or follow US federal law.
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Old 02-06-2020, 07:38 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This is the valid reason:

"But there’s one area where they technically have a point. For example, if you’ve had a DUI you’re unlikely to get approved for Global Entry. With New York state preventing federal agencies from accessing DMV records, the relevant authorities have no way of verifying whether someone is being truthful when they state they haven’t had a DUI."

By NY preventing ALL access it also prevents complete background checks on legal residents and citizens.

Retaliatory or not it's the prerogative of the federal government, just as it's the prerogative of the state government to not provide access or follow US federal law.
Wouldn't record of a DUI be in criminal court ?
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Old 02-06-2020, 08:17 AM
 
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Wouldn't record of a DUI be in criminal court ?
I’d think so.

There’s DUI and also DWAI - the latter is a traffic infraction for the first 2x (that means you were under 0.8 but still affected by alcohol). Not sure how that would factor in, if at all.

Also not sure how an expunged DUI would be treated and shown.

In any case not providing complete records isn’t a good thing. Technically an illegal resident with a valid NY DL shouldn’t be eligible for a trusted traveler program anyway.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Suffolk County
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Why does CBP need access to DMV data? If we have tickets for speeding, how does that impact Global Entry eligibility? What exactly do they want to get from DMV? If someone was arrested in connection with a crime, that would be NYPD not DMV?
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:30 PM
 
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I’d think so.

There’s DUI and also DWAI - the latter is a traffic infraction for the first 2x (that means you were under 0.8 but still affected by alcohol). Not sure how that would factor in, if at all.

Also not sure how an expunged DUI would be treated and shown.

In any case not providing complete records isn’t a good thing. Technically an illegal resident with a valid NY DL shouldn’t be eligible for a trusted traveler program anyway.
New York law does not have anything called DUI.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:33 PM
 
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Why does CBP need access to DMV data? If we have tickets for speeding, how does that impact Global Entry eligibility? What exactly do they want to get from DMV? If someone was arrested in connection with a crime, that would be NYPD not DMV?
Drivers licenses are a state function; the NYPD in the City of New York is one of very many police departments within the state.
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Old 02-07-2020, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Global entry has nothing to do with drivers licenses. This is just to mess with us
Maybe. But if you believe in the sanctuary movement, which is just messing with the Feds, you just take the inconvenience to you and your fellow citizens.
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:46 AM
 
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Maybe. But if you believe in the sanctuary movement, which is just messing with the Feds, you just take the inconvenience to you and your fellow citizens.
I'd characterize it as not doing the feds job for them and opening local agencies up to liability for something that doesn't have anything to do with them

But point taken
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:50 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Even if this is needed - no planning, no communication to cbp , no effort to work with the state ... Just announced on fox propaganda network with no details ... Again very poor management. Reminds me of the Muslim ban chaos. Of course so long as the libs are getting owned his people dont care
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Why does CBP need access to DMV data? If we have tickets for speeding, how does that impact Global Entry eligibility? What exactly do they want to get from DMV? If someone was arrested in connection with a crime, that would be NYPD not DMV?
When a background check is run in NCIC it pulls data from dozens of sources NY DMV is one of those and a big one without it the background check is incomplete. Everything is interconnected. Every other state supplied this data except NY now. It’s unprecedented. Regardless the global entry issue is minor. What is a major issue is CBP and Border Patrol now can’t run plates at the border which is a routine part of the inspection process. It’s a safety and security issue which is why NY residents are no longer eligible for quick entry programs at the Canadian border.
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