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Old 05-06-2021, 05:55 AM
 
Location: western NY
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Seriously? Who gives a crap? Why are you afraid of being vaccinated being made public?
It's not about the actual vaccination, it's about yet another piece of our personal information being stored/available to be potentially used against us, at some point in the future, whether it be for our own good or for some nefarious purpose.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:11 AM
 
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It's not about the actual vaccination, it's about yet another piece of our personal information being stored/available to be potentially used against us, at some point in the future, whether it be for our own good or for some nefarious purpose.
You do know there is a database for vaccinations to which most, if not all children records are stored in NYS.
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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It's not about the actual vaccination, it's about yet another piece of our personal information being stored/available to be potentially used against us, at some point in the future, whether it be for our own good or for some nefarious purpose.
You do, of understand that most of your info is stored and could be used against you in the future right? Think like an EZ PASS, or your computer to name just 2! Do you not use them because of the potential to be used against you? Not saying you have to be vaccinated, that is your choice, as to be was mine. But using that for a reason is just plain silly.
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7WGYZg8cO4

Some healthy skepticism is certainly warranted. It's not like the government has never lied about the seriousness of a virus or safety of a vaccine.
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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While I don't believe celebrities are necessarily any more or less informed on a given topic, there are some interesting points made in this video.

Regardless of your opinions on the vaccine, the vaccine passport idea comes with its own problems. Vaccine passports are, after all, the subject of this thread. No need to conflate that with the vaccine itself. They should be two distinct issues.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGgvgKE0n8o
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:57 AM
 
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Meanwhile, the vaccines are killing and hurting thousands of healthy people - the virus does not.
Utter innumeracy.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

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Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States based on events reported to VAERS.

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Over 245 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 3, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
The vaccine anaphylaxis rate is at worst 5 per million, and the vaccine death rate is 1 in over 58640. You are over 7x as likely (1 in about 8064) to die from a car crash as you are from getting the vaccine.
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Old 05-06-2021, 10:52 AM
 
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the vaccine death rate is 1 in over 58640. You are over 7x as likely (1 in about 8064) to die from a car crash as you are from getting the vaccine.
I don't think these statistics are comparable the way you have laid them out. I am guessing the "1 in about 8064" is over a year of data, the "fatality" in question had multiple opportunities to attain that "fatal" state. But, with the vaccine stat you only get vaccinated once.
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:09 AM
 
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Good luck with that immunity you may or may not have …and enjoy all the conspiracy theories….

Hopefully you get to cower in fear of the vaccines at home while the rest of us sheep are allowed to resume normal lives …hopefully excelsior pass will exclude those who want to cower in fear of vaccines from much of life outside their homes and away from others.
I've been leading a pretty normal life this whole time, and will continue to do so while you get injected with experimental drugs once a year to avoid a bad cold.

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Utter innumeracy.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

The vaccine anaphylaxis rate is at worst 5 per million, and the vaccine death rate is 1 in over 58640. You are over 7x as likely (1 in about 8064) to die from a car crash as you are from getting the vaccine.
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Over 245 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 3, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports.
Utter illiteracy. Anaphylaxis is indeed rare. There are a lot more deaths than just that, however, and the best they can fall back on is the 'ole CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION canard (hot tip: the absence of correlation - especially at present - doesn't imply lack of causation).

But since we are talking about statistically rare events, would you care to discuss the survival rate of Covid, and why my 99.98% chance of survival in the 20-49 age bracket warrants injecting myself with experimental gene therapies that are so safe and effective that they have to be renewed every year and the manufacturers need legal immunity?

Oh but you say, there are side effects to getting sick other than death. Well, thankfully, VAERS has tens of thousands of reports of those from the vaccines as well. So why do people under age 70 need a vaccine (let alone vaccine passport) again?
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:16 AM
 
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I go by what the top experts in the field guide me with ..not media articles from people with half a head of knowledge or less and an agenda. And the cdc ain’t one of those sources
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7WGYZg8cO4

Some healthy skepticism is certainly warranted. It's not like the government has never lied about the seriousness of a virus or safety of a vaccine.
The ‘experts’ were humiliated in 1976. What a vaccine debacle (it is one specific reason there is a skepticism today). 25 folks killed by vaccine...one killed by swine flu. 45M needless (and sometimes deadly) swine flu vaccines were administered ...just to be in the safe side.
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