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The ratio of mentally ill/homeless/troubled to others in/around Penn Station does seem different than two years ago. That certainly impacts concerns regarding safety. (And especially so during off hours.)
Office workers/commuters have yet to return to Manhattan in any measurable numbers, so the ratio seems much higher as there are fewer of them/us to balance out the homeless. I always found the homeless to be a huge issue on the 8th Ave/Amtrak side vs the 7th Ave side but it is out of control.
It used to be but not any more. I have been panhandled, conductors don't even bother asking for tickets after certain stops in Queens where 200 people are cramming onto the train like the subway - ever since they made it so cheap for people from Queens and Brooklyn - the class of people riding it has changed. You get the unemployed going shopping, teenagers going to long island to hang out at train stations and find new parks - floral park has them coming in by the droves now - parents are sending their kids to school in Jamaica and Brooklyn via the LIRR instead of on the bus or the subway and mothers with kids are flooding it and using the bathrooms as accomodations between stops. People get on and take up all the seats to sleep - literally lay across the seats with their shopping carts or bikes and sleep. Things I never saw before - not even in the 80s when the LIRR was functioning at its worse. And of course, it is still late or missing connections half the time - particularly on holiday eves and fridays when you really just want to get home. Loud fights with conductors -who only ask to see tickets. Not the the working man's train for professionals anymore.
It used to be but not any more. I have been panhandled, conductors don't even bother asking for tickets after certain stops in Queens where 200 people are cramming onto the train like the subway - ever since they made it so cheap for people from Queens and Brooklyn - the class of people riding it has changed. You get the unemployed going shopping, teenagers going to long island to hang out at train stations and find new parks - floral park has them coming in by the droves now - parents are sending their kids to school in Jamaica and Brooklyn via the LIRR instead of on the bus or the subway and mothers with kids are flooding it and using the bathrooms as accomodations between stops. People get on and take up all the seats to sleep - literally lay across the seats with their shopping carts or bikes and sleep. Things I never saw before - not even in the 80s when the LIRR was functioning at its worse. And of course, it is still late or missing connections half the time - particularly on holiday eves and fridays when you really just want to get home. Loud fights with conductors -who only ask to see tickets. Not the the working man's train for professionals anymore.
I haven not seen any of this and Ive been back on the train 3-4 times a week since January. Hicksville line.
Im usually home by 4.
No idea what Chatty is talking about. Get a seat every time heading in and out. But the train have gotten more crowded starting this month. All the big banks are dropping WFH.
Mta crime is up 71 percent this year. The do nothing glorified security guards that call themselves cops will start riding the train in January.
Poor prima donnas will have to get out of there pajamas and ride the 5 am train . Mta will let the rise in crime go through the holidays how nice of them.
LIRR always had a sketchyness at night.
The last time I rode the LIRR was December 31st 1992. New Year’s Eve, 65 degrees out.
Of course it was mobbed that night. But yeah, that was the last time I think for any public transportation for me.
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