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Old 03-24-2023, 06:21 PM
 
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I have no idea how this gets fixed.
It won't stand a snowball's chances in Hades of becoming law or whatever but....

Amend NYS constitution so bills cannot be signed into law for "X" amount of days after being published/released for public notice.

And or..

As with federal budget process amend NYS constitution, change laws or rules, whatever it takes to restrict budget to nothing but fiscal matters. If it doesn't have to do with money (such as rent control), then it wouldn't be allowed in budget.

Truth to tell NYS budget is an effing black hole that few in Albany or elsewhere truly understand. This allows NYS governors (who by NYS constitution are comparatively politically weak as opposed to other states), along with speakers of house and senate to get up to all sorts.

No one ever knows what the eff is in entire NYS budget until after it has been passed and signed. Then if or when stuff hits the fan everyone in Albany is "I wonder how that got in there?"

If there is enough public stink about something legislators are summoned back to Albany to fix, but don't bet the egg and money on that happening often if ever.
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Old 03-25-2023, 05:10 PM
 
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The US Congress does the same garbage, it's a problem with our system of government. Democracy (yes I know we're a Republic) means the elites can shove whatever they want down your throat and your only recourse is to vote for another elite who will act exactly the same way. This repeats until either the population is completely subjugated, IE, South Africa, or there's a revolution and their heads go rolling. Sadly I think modern society has made people too weak to choose the latter option.
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Hochul, lawmakers at odds over the hammer in her housing plan


https://www.newsday.com/news/region-...-laws-j4tfned7


What really struck me in this article is that even Stewart-Cousins the senate majority leader whose a hardcore leftist opposes this plan. The legislature just wants to bump up incentives to localities that build more housing not punish them.
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Old 03-26-2023, 08:53 AM
 
Location: western NY
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I don't see how a "one size fits all" plan, as Hochul's plan appears to be, can be even remotely feasible. Her "formula", when applied to the suburban town that I used to live in, calls for 200+ houses to be built there. It's a LONG ESTABLISHED town, which is for the most part, fully built out. How, EXACTLY, would you build that many more homes???
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:57 AM
 
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I don't see how a "one size fits all" plan, as Hochul's plan appears to be, can be even remotely feasible. Her "formula", when applied to the suburban town that I used to live in, calls for 200+ houses to be built there. It's a LONG ESTABLISHED town, which is for the most part, fully built out. How, EXACTLY, would you build that many more homes???
I believe I said this earlier in the thread but look at what happened with Westchester when they did it there. House on sleepy suburban street gets sold to an LLC, and they throw up an apartment building in its place. Not zoned for that? No worries. Not enough utilities for an apartment building? Tough sugar.

These people are ruthless and won’t stop until they are eliminated.
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Old 03-26-2023, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Nassau County
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I believe I said this earlier in the thread but look at what happened with Westchester when they did it there. House on sleepy suburban street gets sold to an LLC, and they throw up an apartment building in its place. Not zoned for that? No worries. Not enough utilities for an apartment building? Tough sugar.

These people are ruthless and won’t stop until they are eliminated.
Right now it dosent look like she even has close to the votes. But who knows.
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Old 03-26-2023, 06:38 PM
 
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Right now it dosent look like she even has close to the votes. But who knows.
Yeahbut that gas appliance ban seems to be a done deal.
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Old 03-26-2023, 08:47 PM
 
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Yeahbut that gas appliance ban seems to be a done deal.
If she bans gas, I'm going to start a youtube and tiktok channel. Cooking, heating and polluting w/ GX. I will make meals using my gas stove, heat my house using both gas furnaces and rev my straight piped car. New videos weekly on why gas is the best fuel in your home.
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Old 03-26-2023, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Yeahbut that gas appliance ban seems to be a done deal.
It's only on new residential homes. New restaurants many commercial buildings etc are exempt.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...s-ban-00088648
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:06 PM
 
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It's only on new residential homes. New restaurants many commercial buildings etc are exempt.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...s-ban-00088648
In most areas of this state gas clothes dryers are cheaper to run then electric. Housewives or households in future are going to be saddled with great expense when forced to use an electric clothes dryer.
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