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Why is it everytime there is a brouhaha in the news, it usually leads to the culprit living in Long Island? Come on, what the heck was that guy thinking having his minor kids directing airplane traffic? I'm so glad I wasn't on any of those flights. Add another to the unemployment rolls - can't see how he survives this one.
Meh. This was local control - basically directing planes from the taxiways to the runways for departure. Ground control directs planes from the terminal to taxiways.
More than likely the kid was sitting on the fathers lap, and both were plugged in. Fater was telling the kid everything to say, and the child was merely parroting it.
I can tell many people ( judging by the reaction to this ) have never been in contact with any form of ATC, either in a tower, or in a plane. That kid spoke better than 99% of the foreign student pilots I've heard.
Repremanded? Yes. Fired? No. If someone would have gotten hurt that would have been a different story. It wasn't the wisest decision though.
My father worked for Conrail and I remember a couple of times as a kid riding up front in the engine and the conductor letting me blow the horn at all the railroad crossings. No harm done.
Why were the kids allowed to enter the premises of a traffic controller's tower in the first place? Oh wait, there are no regulations in place for that! Make rules, enforce them, and stuff like this won't happen.
Meh. This was local control - basically directing planes from the taxiways to the runways for departure. Ground control directs planes from the terminal to taxiways.
More than likely the kid was sitting on the fathers lap, and both were plugged in. Fater was telling the kid everything to say, and the child was merely parroting it.
I can tell many people ( judging by the reaction to this ) have never been in contact with any form of ATC, either in a tower, or in a plane. That kid spoke better than 99% of the foreign student pilots I've heard.
You obviously are not familiar with Long Islanders. They are always quick to judge everyone and cut off their heads with the least bit of provocation. Must be the result of the harsh punitive environment many of their ancestors had growing up in tough NYC neighborhoods.
They aren't going to listen to "shades of gray" arguments.
I don't think anything was put in danger, but I think the ATC was arrogant, self centered and stupid to allow this.
It reminds me of the San Francisco Giants a few years back in the WS when they had toddlers in the dugout running around, and one almost got leveled when he ran out on the field.
It's that arrogance that makes people think "well, I know the rules SAY you're not supposed to do something, but dammit these are MY kids..they are SPECIAL...those rules are for OTHER peoples kids. "
As for LI, that entitlement mentality is very, very common.
What, that sign says no bicycle riding on the tennis courts, meanwhile the parents stand there watching their 4 year old ride on the tennis courts.
"Oh, those rules don't apply to MY super special kid!!"
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People do not get HURT a plane crashes 99% of the time someone dies
I'm not condoning the behavior. If a plane crashed I would not only want him not only fired but charged with Manslaughter. However, no plane crashed, no harm done. Suspend the guy, make it clear to all the controlers that children are not allowed in the tower, so this doesn't happen again. End of story, problem taken care of. No need for vengence.
I don't think someone should be out of a job just for breaking a rule when nobody got hurt.
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I'm so glad I wasn't on any of those flights. Add another to the unemployment rolls - can't see how he survives this one.
