Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-14-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Elmont
2 posts, read 3,454 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

My husband and I rent an illegal basement apartment. At the time of signing the lease our landlord stated it was "legal". We were leary and signed anyway. Recently there was an anonymous complaint issued to the building department about the apartment. We were told we had to leave. According to some they stated the landlord has to pay you back all of the money you have paid them (for rent of course) including the security deposit. is that true? does anyone know??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-15-2009, 06:31 AM
 
13,511 posts, read 17,038,460 times
Reputation: 9691
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRL612 View Post
My husband and I rent an illegal basement apartment. At the time of signing the lease our landlord stated it was "legal". We were leary and signed anyway. Recently there was an anonymous complaint issued to the building department about the apartment. We were told we had to leave. According to some they stated the landlord has to pay you back all of the money you have paid them (for rent of course) including the security deposit. is that true? does anyone know??
They might have to if you take them to court. It's not a short process. I'd ask for your security deposit back pronto, and threaten to take them to court if you don't get it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 06:39 AM
 
6 posts, read 13,597 times
Reputation: 10
From what I've seen, unless you have a very cooperative landlord, you are going to have to take this to court. A friend of mine went throught this a few years back and was told by the judge that since she was renting illegally she had no legal rights to claim on her landlord. A bit harsh, but my point is that you may be in an uphill battle.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 08:20 AM
 
151 posts, read 534,971 times
Reputation: 67
Not True- My friend went to court in 2007 for a similar reason. The judge sided with the landlord which makes sence. You rented an aprtment and got what you were promised, the fact that it was a illegal aprtment does not negate the fact that you lived there for x months and paid x months worth of rent. You should only be due your security deposit. That's exactly what the judge told my friend. Your better off just moving on, the security deposit is not worth the hassel and time of going to court. If it is to you then good luck.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 09:09 AM
 
1,700 posts, read 3,424,829 times
Reputation: 603
Quote:
Originally Posted by arangoa79 View Post
Not True- My friend went to court in 2007 for a similar reason. The judge sided with the landlord which makes sence. You rented an aprtment and got what you were promised, the fact that it was a illegal aprtment does not negate the fact that you lived there for x months and paid x months worth of rent. You should only be due your security deposit. That's exactly what the judge told my friend. Your better off just moving on, the security deposit is not worth the hassel and time of going to court. If it is to you then good luck.
This coming from a landlord.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: East Northport
3,351 posts, read 9,761,758 times
Reputation: 1337
It's worth a shot. You should be able to take it to small claims court.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 10:17 AM
 
1,386 posts, read 5,347,184 times
Reputation: 902
sure might as well sue, everyone else does....

what are your damages?

Personally, I think you're entitled to your security deposit back and maybe something for the trouble of the expedited move unless they gave you adequate time to get out.

Why would you think you would be entitled to live the entire time rent free?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 10:29 AM
 
13,511 posts, read 17,038,460 times
Reputation: 9691
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrisk327 View Post
sure might as well sue, everyone else does....

what are your damages?

Personally, I think you're entitled to your security deposit back and maybe something for the trouble of the expedited move unless they gave you adequate time to get out.

Why would you think you would be entitled to live the entire time rent free?
Because they read somewhere you could and nobody thinks about whether it is right or not, just that they know they can pull one over on someone else, so why not?

Yes, I'm a little bitter!! Virtually every place that I lived from 1994-2001 was "illegal" in some way...college houses with more than 4 unrelated people...illegal..basement apartments...illegal.."cottages" made out of detached garages..ILLEGAL!!! I knew it, but without those type of places, I wouldn't have been able to afford to live on LI. They exist FOR A REASON.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 11:46 AM
 
151 posts, read 534,971 times
Reputation: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by sickofnyc99 View Post
This coming from a landlord.
What does that have to do with it. I'm just pointing out the facts. I have yet to hear of anyone that took a landlord to court to ask for all the rent they paid to be refunded because the apartment was illegal. Though I have heard of people going to small claims and losing. As for asking for taking the LL to court for security, if the LL is that much of an ass that he won't pay it back then maybe they should. But SC court costs time and money, and even then it's not a guarantee that they will pay you if you win. Years back I took my LL to court to get back my security deposit, I won the case but it took me another 6 months after that to get the money. In the end I spent more in time and money then what the $800 security deposit was worth. The only upside was that I won and that I made him pay, but in the end my net proceeds were negative. So take it for what it's worth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
16,408 posts, read 33,309,179 times
Reputation: 7340
I don't know about getting the past rent refunded to you. It might happen in some courts if the judge is feeling ultra-punitive towards illegal landlords, but in many it might not.

Things you can sue for:

Moving expenses

Storage expenses (if you cannot get another place right away and are evicted and have to stay with friends or family)

Real estate fee if you need to use one to get another apartment

How many months are remaining on the lease? If the next apartment you get costs more than this one does (also take into account utilities), you can sue for the difference for the time period remaining on the lease
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top