plastic bag ban. (Carson, Lakewood, Signal Hill: price, shopping centers, statistics)

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by nobody067

i know that starting january 1st,there will be a plastic bag ban. i know that west hollywood and santa monica already have it. does anyone know if cities like inglewood,burbank and culver city will have the ban too or is it just Los Angeles? i already shop outside of where i live and i hope that those places don't have the ban.

Why, do you realize much of Europe only allows cloth or paper bags. When we were in Toronto area a few months ago, everyone used cloth, but I think there were a few plastic bags available. One of the few things we really liked about the area was the cleanliness. I am not an over the top eviornmentalist, but I do think we need to eliminate as much plastic and waste as we can. It isn't hard to provide cloth bags or paper. We keep several of both in our trunk. Aldi's grocery stores, throughout the country charge for plastic bags, some of our local stores give a nickel or dime credit for each cloth bag we use.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by rmissourimule

This is a really dumb idea. The germs inside these cloth bags often contain some very dangerous strains. The statistics are quite alarming.

The alternative might be paper bags but getting rid of the plastic bags is a health hazard.

Reusable grocery bag carried nasty norovirus, scientists say - NBC News.com

I often agree with you, but not this time. Yes, the cloth bags if never washed can be germ infested, but the answer is wash them from time to time, replace them or use paper plus keep a couple of boxes in your trunk, and take your own stuff to the car, like we have to do when we shop at Sam's.

[SandyCo]

At least this has motivated me to dig up my recyclable cloth bags, and after I used them, I actually remembered to put them back in the car for next time!

I reuse my plastic bags for a few different things, so I'm not exactly thrilled with this change - but at the same time it's relatively easy to comply with the new law, and I can always buy more plastic bags if I need them. I'll probably investigate the biodegradable bags, which I didn't even know existed until just recently. Education - it's a marvelous thing!

[Linda_d]

Originally Posted by West of Encino

I wonder if people are now going to shop outside the city now since the ban on plastic bags? The ban is quite ridiculous. So much for big government in Los Angeles.

Why would they bother? Paper or reusable shopping bags are much better choices for shoppers than plastic anyways. Most people where I live (which is NOT in Cali), use reusable shopping bags.

Yours is a selfish, irresponsible attitude based on the fallacy that your actions have no impact on anybody or anything else. That's simply untrue. Whether you like it or not, you live in society, so stop pretending otherwise.

[True Freedom]

+1 on plastic bag ban.
If the vast majority of people were responsible, and reused or recycled their plastic bag, it wouldn't be such a problem. However, here in LA, there's a huge percentage of people who are very careless with their trash. Rotten apples spoil the bunch.

I wish we could ban lame people, but we'll have to settle for a ban on the "urban tumbleweeds"

[TurcoLoco]

Originally Posted by Linda_d

Why would they bother? Paper or reusable shopping bags are much better choices for shoppers than plastic anyways. Most people where I live (which is NOT in Cali), use reusable shopping bags.

This is CA, not wherever you are. You will be very surprised how many of the people I spoke to feel the same way as I do about this new law. Perhaps it is still relatively new but there are a lot of people going to surrounding cities to do their big weekly/bi-weekly shopping at. Even the merchants I spoke to mentioned that they noticed the increase in traffic over the last year or so. I am sure those cities are aware of this and in no rush to loose that extra revenue.

Yours is a selfish, irresponsible attitude based on the fallacy that your actions have no impact on anybody or anything else. That's simply untrue. Whether you like it or not, you live in society, so stop pretending otherwise.

I am curious, you do not live in CA yet you come and pass judgement based on what? How is being selfish or having an irresponsible attitude? How is it not true, again you do not even live here, what were you basing your statement on? As a society, were are to obey and go along with every bylaw or regulation cities come up with? We have no right to dispute or protest?

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by TurcoLoco

This is CA, not wherever you are. You will be very surprised how many of the people I spoke to feel the same way as I do about this new law. Perhaps it is still relatively new but there are a lot of people going to surrounding cities to do their big weekly/bi-weekly shopping at. Even the merchants I spoke to mentioned that they noticed the increase in traffic over the last year or so. I am sure those cities are aware of this and in no rush to loose that extra revenue.


I am curious, you do not live in CA yet you come and pass judgement based on what? How is being selfish or having an irresponsible attitude? How is it not true, again you do not even live here, what were you basing your statement on? As a society, were are to obey and go along with every bylaw or regulation cities come up with? We have no right to dispute or protest?

As much as I approve of banning plastic bags, I also agree with you. If it is the law, you either abide by it or you go someplace else. As for a statement about it being selfish I certainly would not go that far. It isn't selfish, but using plastic can lead to problems centuries down the road.

[CALGUY]

Well here it is January 7th, and I finally got around to grocery shopping.
At the checkout counter, the store is putting the groceries in their "new" plastic bags (for ten cents apiece).
The only difference I see is they are now charging for them.
They seem a little thicker, but still, they are plastic.
Nothing more than a money grab if you ask me.
Bob.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

If you forget to bring your own bags, don't worry about it: just take those sturdy plastic shopping baskets home with you.

[True Freedom]

Originally Posted by TurcoLoco

there are a lot of people going to surrounding cities to do their big weekly/bi-weekly shopping at. Even the merchants I spoke to mentioned that they noticed the increase in traffic over the last year or so. I am sure those cities are aware of this and in no rush to loose that extra revenue.

If someone will take extra time and spend extra gas to drive to another city simply because they are too lazy to bring their own bags... then, in addition to their time not being worth very much, they are an idiot.