05-11-2014, 01:02 AM
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As you drive east on the 134 after passing Glendale, looking off to your right you see what appears to be a lovely residential area of full of trees and green rolling hills. This is of course Eagle Rock, Mt. Washington, Highland Park, etc. collectively known as NELA. These cities are always mentioned as hot spots for housing because people have generally been priced out of other markets. But the few times I've driven through this area I've been underwhelmed. The natural landscape is great, but everything seems very run-down. I understand that this area was first developed quite some time ago, but I'm not sure why it was allowed to get so dilapidated. It's pretty sad because it could be such a nice area.
Anyway, are there any nicer streets or neighborhoods in NELA? I like the location in general and it also seems to be an area where some newer modern homes are going up (like
these for example).
Any other thoughts on where NELA is headed? Would you move there if commute time wasn't a factor? Why or why not?
05-11-2014, 03:52 AM
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That looks cheap, ugly, and with stucco gross, please keep that crap out of the older neighborhoods in LA.
05-11-2014, 08:46 AM
Location: Riverside
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Snuggah
That looks cheap, ugly, and with stucco gross, please keep that crap out of the older neighborhoods in LA.
Agreed. Plus, anything that tall is going to impact somebody's view of something, in a hilly neighborhood.
I LIKE the semi-squalid, somewhat dilapidated, mish-mash character of NELA. Reminds me a little bit of the East Village.
We were in Highland Pk yesterday, looking for a mid-century modern coffee table. We found one sitting on the sidewalk at Shop Class. Grabbed a couple tacos from the La Estrella truck. Watched the hipsters and gay couples walk by with their little dogs. Fun day.
Lots of peds on the sidewalk, different kinds of folks, very lively scene. If I lived there, I might find some elements that would annoy me. But I think NELA a great place to visit.
05-11-2014, 08:52 AM
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I don't think most of Eagle Rock is dilapidated. Some parts are, but some are really gorgeous (such as near Occidental College). Eagle Rock is pretty middle class to upper middle class, which is rare.
05-11-2014, 09:06 AM
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Snuggah
That looks cheap, ugly, and with stucco gross, please keep that crap out of the older neighborhoods in LA.
LOL. Cheap, ugly, and gross describes 90% of houses there that were built 100 years ago.
I'm not a fan of stucco either, but I also don't think barred up windows and stained yellowish siding are great architectural touches either.
Anyway the thread was meant to be about the area in general, not that particular development.
05-11-2014, 09:07 AM
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I don't think most of Eagle Rock is dilapidated. Some parts are, but some are really gorgeous (such as near Occidental College). Eagle Rock is pretty middle class to upper middle class, which is rare.
Cool, I'll give Eagle Rock a closer look next time I'm there.
05-11-2014, 09:12 AM
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Agreed. Plus, anything that tall is going to impact somebody's view of something, in a hilly neighborhood.
Where exactly were you? I just drove through downtown HP on Figueroa yesterday and it was only one step above Skid Row. Not many people out and all the barred-up businesses looked to be closed.
05-11-2014, 10:13 AM
Location: Riverside
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Where exactly were you? I just drove through downtown HP on Figueroa yesterday and it was only one step above Skid Row. Not many people out and all the barred-up businesses looked to be closed.
I wouldn't compare it to skid row. But it's definitely an area "in transition", I'd say. Many businesses had had bars on the windows, but they were open. Saw a couple of shifty characters, but so what? It's LA.
We were there at noon, down Figueroa from the 5 through Cypress Pk to where Fig bends north, then back down York to Eagle Rock Blvd. lots of families crowding the sidewalks, pop-up flower stands for Mother's Day, good crowds at the cafes, parks were full of families, couldn't move inside Sunbeam Vintage, place was packed with yuppies and sock-hats.
Book stores, vinyl shops, art and design studios, dive bars, food stands. Very hip couple of blocks.
I probably sound like I'm trying to sell real estate. But I'm not. I'm just an occasional visitor who likes the vibe of the area.
05-11-2014, 10:38 AM
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LOL. Cheap, ugly, and gross describes 90% of houses there that were built 100 years ago.
About that...
05-11-2014, 12:51 PM
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Where exactly were you? I just drove through downtown HP on Figueroa yesterday and it was only one step above Skid Row. Not many people out and all the barred-up businesses looked to be closed.
York is the gentrified drag in HP. Fig is in transition but
far from a skid row. Just a working class commercial area. I almost moved nearby.
Though not in LA proper, South Pasadena is NELA-adjacent and
very nice.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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