Homeless Man Almost Caused a Big Pile-Up on the 405 (Los Angeles: apartment, rent)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Scrat335

Maybe you can just start some legislation to get a concentration camp set up and we can make you world ****ing perfect. Better yet you people in your cars can make it open season on them if they're caught on the highway. Don't come to me for the damage to your cars either. As a matter of fact you can pay for the concentration camp too while your at it.

Such fine people in this society.

I'd like to start legislation to have several dozen street people live in your home. Oh, what's that? You don't want that? In that case, your virtue signaling has no credibility here, because your post provides no solution to the problem.

[davidt1]

Originally Posted by tommy64

The stupid arguments I hear over and over are that they're mentally ill and deserve some compassion, or they're addicted to drugs and it's not their fault because addiction is a disease.

Many are disabled veterans who served in the military and are now being kicked in the n*ts by society after all the good they've done.

If there were more shelters they wouldn't be such a nuisance because they just need a little help and homelessness can happen to anyone.

If I left any out lemme know....

Veterans are already given many helps such as lifetime healthcare at the VA, free college, low/no interest housing loan, higher test scores for government jobs, etc. If they don't take advantage of the programs available to them to better themselves, that's their problem. There has to be a limit on society's obligations to them.

Also, disabled people get SSDI. Mental illness would get a person approved for SSDI pretty quickly. Between SSDI and welfare, most of the homeless population would have some income to live on, unless they spend it on drugs and alcohol.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I suspect the CHP is fairly lax on this sort of thing as well, since arresting the homeless guy doesn't generate revenue for the state, like they tried to do by issuing me a ticket a few years ago for rolling through a stop at the bottom of a hill at 1 mph. And then those no-seatbelt tickets, which I didn't fight and had to pay.

I'm so sick of these homeless people. Our city is under siege by these people and our leaders don't want to do anything about it, even if it endangers our lives.

People who live around others of differing socioeconomic backgrounds gain so very much. You are being enriched and don't even know it.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by davidt1

Veterans are already given many helps such as lifetime healthcare at the VA, free college, low/no interest housing loan, higher scores for government jobs, etc. If they don't take advantage of the programs available to them to better themselves, that's their problem. There has to be a limit on society's obligations to them. Drug addicts are drug addicts, veterans or not.

Also, disabled people get SSDI.

Prolonged drug use = leads to mental illness = leads to a check for mental disability

Ain't America great?

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by davidt1

Veterans are already given many helps such as lifetime healthcare at the VA, free college, low/no interest housing loan, higher test scores for government jobs, etc. If they don't take advantage of the programs available to them to better themselves, that's their problem. There has to be a limit on society's obligations to them.

Also, disabled people get SSDI. Mental illness would get a person approved for SSDI pretty quickly. Between SSDI and welfare, most of the homeless population would have some income to live on, unless they spend it on drugs and alcohol.

I remember a stand up comedians routine around the first Gulf War saying that it was a good thing it came around because many of those "veterans" must have been little drummer boys in Vietnam.

[GSR13]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Prolonged drug use = leads to mental illness = leads to a check for mental disability

Ain't America great?

Upping the ante:

Prolonged liberal brainwashing = leads to mental illness = leads to a check for Universal Basic Income

Ain't the USSA great?

[V8 Vega]

I heard that idiot city attorney Mike Feuer prattle on for 10 minutes this morning on the radio about prop. H or HHH.
with out saying anything. One thing for sure no homeless live around him.

[timtemtym]

We had a homeless lady outside of the school where I teach. At 7:30 AM she was screaming profanities at anyone passing by. A couple who looked like European tourists walked too close and she spit on them. She spit on another teacher walking from the parking garage to the school. We had LAPD out there the whole time and they said they couldn't do anything.

We have a city where people can live outdoors 350 days out of the year with generally comfortable weather. We also have a city that attracts the "creative" class who don't always make it. We also have a city where people come to be homeless. There's a ton of factors and reasons, but we have to get back to some kind of civility enforcement. We have people crapping in bushes or on sidewalks, sleeping across sidewalks, assaulting passerby, etc...

We even had one guy set up his living space and sleeping in a giant pile of blankets right in front of the door we use to exit our parking garage. There was no way out of the garage but to wait for a car to enter and open the auto gate. We were all trapped in there because this guy wasn't waking up and we couldn't push the door open because his body and his crap piles was blocking it. That's happened three times now since school went back in mid-august.

I have no idea how to solve these things, but what will be the tipping point for someone to actually do something about it instead of worrying about the political backlash of looking like a callous city? And seriously, don't launch into some trump/democrat/republican debate. That's not at all helpful to the conversation.

[GSR13]

Originally Posted by timtemtym

We had a homeless lady outside of the school where I teach. At 7:30 AM she was screaming profanities at anyone passing by. A couple who looked like European tourists walked too close and she spit on them. She spit on another teacher walking from the parking garage to the school. We had LAPD out there the whole time and they said they couldn't do anything.

We have a city where people can live outdoors 350 days out of the year with generally comfortable weather. We also have a city that attracts the "creative" class who don't always make it. We also have a city where people come to be homeless. There's a ton of factors and reasons, but we have to get back to some kind of civility enforcement. We have people crapping in bushes or on sidewalks, sleeping across sidewalks, assaulting passerby, etc...

We even had one guy set up his living space and sleeping in a giant pile of blankets right in front of the door we use to exit our parking garage. There was no way out of the garage but to wait for a car to enter and open the auto gate. We were all trapped in there because this guy wasn't waking up and we couldn't push the door open because his body and his crap piles was blocking it. That's happened three times now since school went back in mid-august.

I have no idea how to solve these things, but what will be the tipping point for someone to actually do something about it instead of worrying about the political backlash of looking like a callous city? And seriously, don't launch into some trump/democrat/republican debate. That's not at all helpful to the conversation.

Culture trickles down from the top. You want to clean up LA, you have to clean up Hollywood first. Not just the rapists, but the pedos and the culture of women trading looks for favors.

Of course, this will depress the local economy, but everything is a tradeoff and improvements take time.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by ryanms3030

That's all great but there is no reason for them to all be in the high cost of living over crowded metro areas of LA. Build a shelter out in the desert far away from the rest of us and round them all up and drop them off. Maybe drop them over the boarder in an exchange program with Mexico. For every illegal that comes over here we send one crazy homeless person back the other way. They don't own homes, they don't have jobs, they don't contribute to society and whatever they are doing they can do somewhere else

Exactly . At this point many people with college degrees and full time jobs can't afford L.A so they have to move out of the city or out of the state.

I had read an article a while back that homeless housing was estimated to cost $350,000 a unit to build. With the way construction costs are going it's likely going to be more than that now and a nice profit for the 'affordable/homeless' housing developers that Garcetti and the city councilmembers are buddies with.

When all these homeless housing units get built the homeless will be living in nicer and newer places than the average person in L.A.

Also how are they going to get the mentally ill homeless into this nice new housing if they have options for housing now but refuse to take it?