Is the current era the best times in L.A. since the early 80's? (Oxnard: apartments, low crime)

[MuscleCar]

Ah the glory days. Cruising Van Nuys and complaining about how Reseda didnt have every cable channel yet. Chevy, Firestone tire, Hughes Aircraft all employing everybody.

Then came the gangs, riots, layoffs, earthquake, and a reprieve until the housing bubble and Great Recession.

Things are really looking up in L.A. now. Is this the best of times in many many years?

[FullBloodedWhiteMale]

Yes they are great times. These are the "good old days". Low unemployment, S&P a little down from its 2018 highs but still good over the past 10 years (2775 today, 826 in 2009), your home's value at a peak, interest rates still really low. Rams and Dodgers competing. Lakers and Chargers look promising. Even ditch diggers have the same power of cell phones in their pockets that millionaires have. Cars are safer. Nobody smokes anymore. Music is so much more portable. Computers are so cheap.

It doesn't get any better than this.

[jm1982]

Are they looking up?



L.A still has many big problems that the city hasn't addressed. I don't see things trending too great unfortunately. There is some speculation that a lot of things will get cleaned up before the Olympics...but that's still years away too.



Hopefully things get better in the future...but it's going to take a regime change and people will actually have to start caring and voting.

[pwright1]

Much better now imho. Much more crime back then. Much more polluted. Public transportation was horrible. Downtown was at it's worse. Traffic was still a mess back then. Way too many abandoned historical buildings. Parking lots were everywhere which made for a gross looking city. Racial tension. Police corruption. It's not a perfect city by any means today, but it sure is better than back then.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by pwright1

Much better now imho. Much more crime back then. Much more polluted. Public transportation was horrible. Downtown was at it's worse. Traffic was still a mess back then. Way too many abandoned historical buildings. Parking lots were everywhere which made for a gross looking city. Racial tension. Police corruption. It's not a perfect city by any means today, but it sure is better than back then.

Crime was higher , but big parts of la like the westside still had low crime and those areas were much much cheaper than today even inflation adjusted , so it was actually more affordable for someone to live in a low crime area closer to work versus today .

Our air quality is still among the worst in the country . despite all the talk about being green and pro environmental friendly .

[kttam186290]

Of course, this "The Best of Times" thing happened because a great chunk of our ghetto population was expelled out to the Inland Empire, the desert areas and out of state. They were replaced by upwardly mobile immigrants from Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.

Was this by design or coincidence ? Well, I don't believe in coincidences.

Will anyone else openly admit this? ...Doubt it.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Of course, this "The Best of Times" thing happened because a great chunk of our ghetto population was expelled out to the Inland Empire, the desert areas and out of state. They were replaced by upwardly mobile immigrants from Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.

Was this by design or coincidence ? Well, I don't believe in coincidences.

Will anyone else openly admit this? ...Doubt it.

True .

Still a lot of ghettoness in L.A though , for all the talk of gentrification there are huge swaths of L..A without any signs of gentrification .

[FullBloodedWhiteMale]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Was this by design or coincidence ? Well, I don't believe in coincidences.

Supply and Demand. Hispanics replaced a lot of blacks and whites everywhere. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I wouldn't be surprised if the entire population of southern California doubled since 1980. So, parts that were saturated remained saturated and other regions built housing: IE, Palmdale, Oxnard plain, Santa Clarita, etc.

[FullBloodedWhiteMale]

Originally Posted by jm1982

True .

Still a lot of ghettoness in L.A though , for all the talk of gentrification there are huge swaths of L..A without any signs of gentrification .

Something like 80% of LAUSD kids receive subsidized meals.

[pwright1]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Crime was higher , but big parts of la like the westside still had low crime and those areas were much much cheaper than today even inflation adjusted , so it was actually more affordable for someone to live in a low crime area closer to work versus today .

Our air quality is still among the worst in the country . despite all the talk about being green and pro environmental friendly .

No matter how you look at it our air quality has improved in leaps and bounds over the 80's. The Westside has gone up but it's always been overpriced in my book and most of the apartments are ugly.