We are suppose to conserve electricity today (San Francisco, Long Beach: home, buy)

[V8 Vega]

Yet they want all electric cars by 2035 and they can't keep the lights on now. What a joke. This all renewable energy is not aqueduct and never will be.

[Kings Gambit]

Its funny but you are right. Saw the Flexalert warning due to the excessive heat we are experiencing.

Good thing though is that the $2 trillion dollar Biden infrastructure plan proposes $100 BILLLION specifically to upgrade our aging US power grid. Going to also put a LOT of people to work with all the new jobs it'll create. When that happens you can say goodbye to rolling blackouts and flexalerts. We'll all have electric cars, the environment will improve, and we will be just a few steps (years/decades) away from living like the Jetsons and the power grid will definitely be aqueduct.

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Originally Posted by Kings Gambit

Its funny but you are right. Saw the Flexalert warning due to the excessive heat we are experiencing.

Good thing though is that the $2 trillion dollar Biden infrastructure plan proposes $100 BILLLION specifically to upgrade our aging US power grid. Going to also put a LOT of people to work with all the new jobs it'll create. When that happens you can say goodbye to rolling blackouts and flexalerts. We'll all have electric cars, the environment will improve, and we will be just a few steps (years/decades) away from living like the Jetsons and the power grid will definitely be aqueduct.

100 billion to upgrade the entire country's power grid? 5 billion has already been spent on the train to nowhere. $100 says neither of these will ever come to fruition in our lifetime

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by Kings Gambit

Its funny but you are right. Saw the Flexalert warning due to the excessive heat we are experiencing.

Good thing though is that the $2 trillion dollar Biden infrastructure plan proposes $100 BILLLION specifically to upgrade our aging US power grid. Going to also put a LOT of people to work with all the new jobs it'll create. When that happens you can say goodbye to rolling blackouts and flexalerts. We'll all have electric cars, the environment will improve, and we will be just a few steps (years/decades) away from living like the Jetsons and the power grid will definitely be aqueduct.

We'll see...

Stuff like this has a way of not working that way it's sold to the public.

[Thaitea]

Yes the utility company sends me emails saying to conserve energy and finish charging cars before 5pm. That is funny because I get home from work way after 5pm and need to charge it to have enough mileage for tomorrow’s drive.

[SFBayBoomer]

Originally Posted by Thaitea

Yes the utility company sends me emails saying to conserve energy and finish charging cars before 5pm. That is funny because I get home from work way after 5pm and need to charge it to have enough mileage for tomorrow’s drive.

Charge it after 9 PM, because it is after peak usage (dinner preparation and cleanup, weather cools down then, etc.)

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by SFBayBoomer

Charge it after 9 PM, because it is after peak usage (dinner preparation and cleanup, weather cools down then, etc.)

Are you saying hours of the day are cyclical or something?

Originally Posted by Thaitea

Yes the utility company sends me emails saying to conserve energy and finish charging cars before 5pm. That is funny because I get home from work way after 5pm and need to charge it to have enough mileage for tomorrow’s drive.

Is there not an actual time period or is it just before 5 pm? I heard that hours of the day run in a cycle in California, so if it's to charge before 5 pm and your PMs turn into AMs at some point, then supposedly you can set your charger to start charging at midnight or whatever the time period is.

[HB2HSV]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

Yet they want all electric cars by 2035 and they can't keep the lights on now. What a joke. This all renewable energy is not aqueduct and never will be.

Yeah wait for a conserve water mandate coming down next.

Next we will have conserve cow farts too...

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by WanderingWolf

California should be building modern nuclear power plants.
The small amounts of radioactive waste generated by spent fuel rods can be safely shipped to Nevada and buried deep underground where it won't harm anyone or anything.

Solar and wind power are expensive to build, don't provide much energy, and aren't as cost efficient in the long run.
Also, California needs to invest in new desalination technology and should probably work in cooperation with the U.S. Navy on this technology.

I think with the advances in long distance transmission lines, it may make more sense to simply have nuclear plants cited close to where the waste would ultimately be stored. I'm very much pro-nuclear, but I think you might be a bit off on the cost of solar and wind.



Solar and wind actually have the lowest levelized cost of electricity in a lot of regions at face value, but their problem is that they don't necessarily generate when you need them so then you have to overbuild, supplement, provide storage, provide long distance transmission among different regions and/or change demand curves to better match supply. If battery improvements continue, then it's possible that within a short time frame solar+storage or wind+storage also end up having lower LCOE. The other benefit of solar though is that it can ostensibly be deployed in a much wider variety of areas and close to where the energy is used. That being said, nuclear provides a fantastic and steady baseline of power and we're not even close to reaching the potential nuclear energy can provide which means more than just supplying enough to meet demand, but potentially supplying such a massive quantity of electricity that entirely new industries can come to fruition.

[vincenze]

California can buy floating nuclear stations and park them everywhere: Long Beach, Malibu, Santa Barbara, San Francisco...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvpwQOuTSZo