10-22-2008, 09:28 PM
Location: Boston, MA
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My boyfriend and I are planning on moving to LA at the end of the spring 2009(depending on how the economy wave rides over the next couple of months). I really want to go back to school to obtain an MBA. I am from the Boston area and use to a number of schools in a city. browsing the web, the only programs i've seen thus far are through Pepperdine and USC. What kind of reputation do these schools have in the LA job market? I am wanting to spend the least possible, but still attend a quailty program. any suggestions? In addition, what areas could we live in that I could have a reasonable commute to these schools(30 minutes or less) and spend no more than 1000-1250/m for a 1 bedroom. I plan on looking for employment close to the school I choose.
thanks for any suggestions!
10-23-2008, 09:10 AM
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First off, the economy wave won't be over in a few months.
Secondly, if you only found two MBA programs in LA, you didn't do much of a search.
What do you mean the least possible but still a quality school? How do you define both of those? You can go to a state school for $5,000 per year or Pepperdine for $20,000 per year, or whatever it is.
You can find all kinds of information online about MBA programs and their rankings. Do a search and you'll find more than you could ever want.
Where you live will depend on where you end up going to school. And where you live will determine what your rent will be and what your commute will be. Depending on where you live and what time of day you will be going to school, a 30 minute commute could be you living anywhere from 5 to 30 miles from school.
Pepperdine is in a very nice area and rents around there, I would presume, are going to be expensive, more than you are wanting to pay. USC is in the ghetto (literally).
You need to do some more research and figure out what you want before we can give you much advice. There are too many variables to guess about.
10-23-2008, 09:27 AM
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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Motoman is right. Do some more research to get a better idea of what you want then post back here for help.
Arent there quite a few schools in your current area that offers MBA programs? Why did you decide that you want to come to LA but havent decided on a school? Is it the glamorous lifestyle and exciting happenings in LA that desire? If so, how do you expect to complete MBA classes with all the distractions of LA happening around you?
Figure out what school has the best program at the best prices for you, then, if you are accepted, start looking for places to live near the school.
10-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Location: Boston, MA
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Thanks for your responses.
I don't anticipate the economic "wave" to end over the next couple months, however, with the bailout, there will be legislation passed that will change certain economic platforms in this county, that may very well effect our decision to move.
We are moving to Cali, because we have been wanting to move out of BOS for awhile now to LA or FL, but those hurricanes are no fun (I use to live in FL and have been through enough hurricanes than I care to remember)and we have been putting this move off forever. We love the weather and lifestyle there. We have spent enough time there to feel confident about our decision. We are excited. (well....not excited about the traffic
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I was planning on going back to school here anyways.....but since our plans our changing, I want to apply for schools in SoCal as well as here in MA just in case.
I apologize I should have been more specific about the MBA programs. I have done some research, and in SoCal the main schools that continue to come up most popular are Pepperdine, USC, and UCLA. If there are other programs I am not finding them or they are not as well advertised on the internet. I have seen the rankings but they are nationally and not state specific.
Here in Boston, we have certain universities and colleges that are state schools but have great reputations for having quality programs at a state school price. To be honest I don't believe that you have to pay a tremendous amount of money to get a quality education. Alot of times your just paying for a reputation and prestige that comes with going to "Harvard", "MIT", etc. sooooo...I guess what Im seeking is more the 3rd party "opinion" rather than online, where its mostly marketing material and basic info about the program.
What im hoping to find in a MBA program is more a general business curriculim, not looking for a career/field specific MBA. I don't qualify for executive programs. I have attended some webinars for some of the schools mentioned above. but its speaks more about the school when you can get positive feedback from others.
hope this narrows it down a bit
10-23-2008, 11:23 AM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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The least expensive business grad programs are offered through the Cal State and UC systems - nearly all are AACSB accredited and well-respected in the region. There's the caveat of residency qualification since all of us CA taxpayers are subsidizing their lower cost. USC arguably has one of the better alumni networks, but can be expensive. The e-MBA through USC is right around $100k, depending on pre-reqs and eligibility. Pepperdine is possibly the most expensive MBA in the region and has great marketing; however, their acceptance rate is among the highest in the area so they are not selective with their applicants. The UC schools are somewhat of a middle ground, being a bit more pricey than Cal States but much less than a private school and fairly selective.
Here is a nice comparative matrix from Cal Poly Pomona:
Cal Poly Pomona MBA Programs (http://www.csupomona.edu/%7Emba/general/compare.htm - broken link)
My MBA alma mater, University of La Verne, has nowhere near the reputation of USC or the UC system but offered tremendous flexibility with tons of campuses and outstanding faculty. The acceptance rate is on the high side, but is still more selective then Pepperdine. The alumni network is average.
Consider purchasing "The Book of Lists" from the LA Business Journal and OC Business Journal. I believe you will find a very nice comparative analysis of the grad schools in the region that includes program cost and ratings.
10-24-2008, 01:10 AM
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I would not look at the cost of the program but the benefit to the program for you. Lets say that you are accepted into any program that you choose and you are able to get student loans, or some other finance option to pay for school. For the durration of your program chances are you will have a minimal amount to pay for your education. Find out what the average starting pay for a graduate within each of the programs. I know Pepperdine grads that had jobs before they completed the program. One friend had a job offer that included paying off the student loans. Not so much is this a question of you get what you pay for, but more a question of what will the benefit be to me after I complete the program.
Lets say that the program at Cal Poly cost less than the others. How does it perform in the end? Can you bring in a wage that will pay the cost back? What I am saying is drop the sticker shock and go for the program that will pay off in the end.
10-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I would not look at the cost of the program but the benefit to the program for you. Lets say that you are accepted into any program that you choose and you are able to get student loans, or some other finance option to pay for school. For the durration of your program chances are you will have a minimal amount to pay for your education. Find out what the average starting pay for a graduate within each of the programs. I know Pepperdine grads that had jobs before they completed the program. One friend had a job offer that included paying off the student loans. Not so much is this a question of you get what you pay for, but more a question of what will the benefit be to me after I complete the program.
Lets say that the program at Cal Poly cost less than the others. How does it perform in the end? Can you bring in a wage that will pay the cost back? What I am saying is drop the sticker shock and go for the program that will pay off in the end.
Good for your friend - that is a sweet deal.
BUT
there are no guarantees of a job offer at the conclusion of any program. The cost is indeed a factor that shouldn't be ignored! If Cal Poly, as an example, has an outstanding alumni network and employment connections, why expend incremental dollars for no incremental value?
10-24-2008, 02:27 PM
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I'd start my research looking only at the AACSB accredited schools. Then look at the individual programs (quality, specialty if any, etc), employment of grads, and the alumni network.
AACSB accredited business schools in Southern California are:
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Riverside
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State University, Fullerton
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University , Northridge
California State University, San Bernardino
Chapman University
Claremont Graduate University
Loyola Marymount University
Pepperdine University
University of San Diego
San Diego State University
University of Southern California
10-24-2008, 03:49 PM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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The AACSB accreditation process takes a few years. There are a number of schools that may not have it today, but are well on their way to receiving certification.
10-24-2008, 04:11 PM
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Good for your friend - that is a sweet deal.
BUT
there are no guarantees of a job offer at the conclusion of any program. The cost is indeed a factor that shouldn't be ignored! If Cal Poly, as an example, has an outstanding alumni network and employment connections, why expend incremental dollars for no incremental value?
So true and in todays world the opportunities will be different than in the past. Things are allways changing. Something that I am working on now is to complete my CPA. Thank's to Enron many employers are looking for and willing to pay very well for a CPA. I would push for completing the requirenments for that along with the MBA in todays world.
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People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)