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Old 03-08-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs
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From the left coast, I'm researching an Albion property where the 40-year-old house is close to a small stream; close enough I'm told that, if built today, it'd have to be sited further back from the stream. Since a mortgage would be involved, I'd expect that flood insurance would be required. Any ideas as to relative cost?

For better sun exposure , I'd consider cutting some trees near the house. Are there often restrictions as to whether trees can be cleared near streams; and are these generally state, county or local regs?

Been told that the septic tank was recently pumped, but this tells me nothing about the leach field which I'm guessing is original. No idea if the original installer is still around or would have records as to location of field and whether it has been serviced since installation. I'm guessing that a regular 'home inspector' would not be, so who else might be qualified to inspect a septic system?

Any suggestions as to Maine companies for testing water and soil quality?

My Belfast agent is researching some of these issues; and yes I know that Google is my friend, but any specifics, especially your personal experience with any of the above is appreciated.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Waterville
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From the left coast, I'm researching an Albion property where the 40-year-old house is close to a small stream; close enough I'm told that, if built today, it'd have to be sited further back from the stream. Since a mortgage would be involved, I'd expect that flood insurance would be required. Any ideas as to relative cost?
I cannot answer any of your questions. Apologies. But I look at the Maine MLS several times a day and if the house is the one I think it is then, wow that is a nice house on a nice spot. And the price, while way out of my range, is really very reasonable. Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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You should take a look through this guide on shoreland zoning:
http://www.maine.gov/dep/land/slz/citizenguide.pdf

The Mandatory Shoreland Zoning Act applies to land within 75 feet of a stream. Sounds like your house is grandfathered in, which is good, but there will likely be restrictions on how much you can cut within that area. I also believe the restrictions vary by locality, and some localities are more diligent than others on enforcement.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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From the left coast, I'm researching an Albion property where the 40-year-old house is close to a small stream; close enough I'm told that, if built today, it'd have to be sited further back from the stream. Since a mortgage would be involved, I'd expect that flood insurance would be required. Any ideas as to relative cost?

For better sun exposure , I'd consider cutting some trees near the house. Are there often restrictions as to whether trees can be cleared near streams; and are these generally state, county or local regs?

Been told that the septic tank was recently pumped, but this tells me nothing about the leach field which I'm guessing is original. No idea if the original installer is still around or would have records as to location of field and whether it has been serviced since installation. I'm guessing that a regular 'home inspector' would not be, so who else might be qualified to inspect a septic system?

Any suggestions as to Maine companies for testing water and soil quality?

My Belfast agent is researching some of these issues; and yes I know that Google is my friend, but any specifics, especially your personal experience with any of the above is appreciated.




Always check with the towns code enforcement officer first.
They can tell you what laws will apply for the tree cutting. Possibly the towns plumbing inspector can show you a plan of the septic system, but it would seem that the sellers would also have a copy. What any of the plumbing people will show you about the septic, is that it flows from the toilet into the tank. They would use a dye tablet to do the test.
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs
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Thanks, Fog, I believe you spotted it. I wonder if the property really is well priced; hard to tell when out in the boonies and no similar props nearby. But my agent's supposed to be researching comps.

Thanks DPO and Austin. I'll check that link and also give town hall a call to check on creekside cutting and plumbing.

Another issue is that the well head is in the basement - or should I say half basement. Apparently it's just a partial short basement with a crawl space. And the septic is also serviced from the same area - if what's been reported to me is correct. Doesn't seem very sanitary to have well and septic so close together.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:03 PM
 
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Thanks, Fog, I believe you spotted it. I wonder if the property really is well priced; hard to tell when out in the boonies and no similar props nearby. But my agent's supposed to be researching comps.

Thanks DPO and Austin. I'll check that link and also give town hall a call to check on creekside cutting and plumbing.

Another issue is that the well head is in the basement - or should I say half basement. Apparently it's just a partial short basement with a crawl space. And the septic is also serviced from the same area - if what's been reported to me is correct. Doesn't seem very sanitary to have well and septic so close together.

austin has good advice, call the town office,,you can also ask if the place is in a floodzone,,

im in a floodzone , but when i re-mortgaged the bank overlooked flood insurance requirement and i didnt volunteer it,(it was 600 yr 15 yrs ago,,,think its double that now..,, ask an insurance company about flood insurance premiums if needed


have a water test, and inspections will reveal if they are too close together- well and septic
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Union, ME
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Being able to easily get at the well head and the septic tank is a good thing.

I don't think that having the septic tank and well head located in close proximity is a problem. At least, I have twenty' +/- between mine. It's the distance between the well and leach field that is regulated.

Maybe things are the way they are because of the soils test (?).
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs
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austin has good advice, call the town office,,you can also ask if the place is in a floodzone,,

im in a floodzone , but when i re-mortgaged the bank overlooked flood insurance requirement and i didnt volunteer it,(it was 600 yr 15 yrs ago,,,think its double that now..,, ask an insurance company about flood insurance premiums if needed


have a water test, and inspections will reveal if they are too close together- well and septic
Thanks, MBM. $1200/yr seems pricey, but I'll check it out. Heck, that's about what I pay yearly for car insurance in SoCal.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs
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Being able to easily get at the well head and the septic tank is a good thing.

I don't think that having the septic tank and well head located in close proximity is a problem. At least, I have twenty' +/- between mine. It's the distance between the well and leach field that is regulated.

Maybe things are the way they are because of the soils test (?).
Agree, Maureen, that accessibility is a good thing, but so close together concerns me. An inspector should be able to point out issues if any, I presume. You raise an interesting point about potential prior soil tests; time will tell.
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Old 03-09-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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"From the left coast, I'm researching an Albion property where the 40-year-old house is close to a small stream; close enough I'm told that, if built today, it'd have to be sited further back from the stream. Since a mortgage would be involved, I'd expect that flood insurance would be required. Any ideas as to relative cost?

For better sun exposure , I'd consider cutting some trees near the house. Are there often restrictions as to whether trees can be cleared near streams; and are these generally state, county or local regs?

"Been told that the septic tank was recently pumped, but this tells me nothing about the leach field which I'm guessing is original. No idea if the original installer is still around or would have records as to location of field and whether it has been serviced since installation. I'm guessing that a regular 'home inspector' would not be, so who else might be qualified to inspect a septic system?"

We have a moto for such things in Maine. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it.'

You should not add on to the house or buildings close to the stream than what is already there. That said, you might be able to add onto one side if prior owners have not already done so. The limit for an addition is 30% of existing floor space or volume.

As to trees, you can cut any of the four "d's". That's dead, diseased dying or dangerous. You don't need permission top do that, but it's a good idea to take pictures before you cut in case you have neighbors who are busybodies or environmental whackos. Most Mainers are pretty easygoing, but there are a few radicals who want to control other people.

Remember, it is much easier to obtain forgiveness than it is to obtain permission.
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