white slavery (North Beach: public school, live, beach)

[ArizonaDesertGuy]

is the history of enslaved whites taught in maryland schools, since it was very prominent in the chesepeake bay?

[North Beach Person]

You mean indentured servants?

[Ivory Lee Spurlock]

I think the white slaves were captured up and down the European Atlantic Coast in the 16 and 1700's by the Barbary Pirates and were taken back to North Africa as slaves. They were numbered in the millions. I'm 61 years old and i don't remember being taught about white slavery in public school. But that doesn't mean we weren't taught that. I didn't always pay the best attention in history class so I could have missed it. I'm just saying I don't remember being taught about white slavery. I only recently learned about the Barbary Pirates and their enslavement of white people. President Thomas Jefferson took us to war over the Barbary Pirates. I don't know how well known that fact is, but I didn't know it until only this past year.

As far as I know, America never had any white slavery in Maryland or any other state. But America did take in indentured servants. I don't profess to know the story on indentured servitude and how it worked. You might wanna look it up in Wikipedia. Almost anything in the world you wanna know you can find in Wikipedia.

[Quaker15]

Originally Posted by ArizonaDesertGuy

is the history of enslaved whites taught in maryland schools, since it was very prominent in the chesepeake bay?

It's politically incorrect to talk about that stuff.

[MidValleyDad]

Originally Posted by Ivory Lee Spurlock

I think the white slaves were captured up and down the European Atlantic Coast in the 16 and 1700's by the Barbary Pirates and were taken back to North Africa as slaves.

Do you have any source other than Wikipedia? Although Wikipedia is great for quick checks it is not considered authoritative

[slowlane3]

The term "white slavery" also used to have a different meaning, it meant prostitution.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by slowlane3

The term "white slavery" also used to have a different meaning, it meant prostitution.

Many of the women sent to the American colonies as indentured servants by the British Courts due to being prostitutes.


To answer an earlier question:


An indentured servant owed the owner of the indenture a term of service, typically 7 years, in exchange for the payment of the passage.


Many were sent here by the Courts, typically habitual criminals, and were given the choice of hanging or exile to the Colonies.


At the end of the 7 years they were freemen and could take up a trade, many of which were learned during the indenture.

[ArizonaDesertGuy]

[quote=North Beach Person;42584729]


An indentured servant owed the owner of the indenture a term of service, typically 7 years, in exchange for the payment of the passage.


Many were sent here by the Courts, typically habitual criminals, and were given the choice of hanging or exile to the Colonies.


its true that many servants volunteered, but kidnapping regular civilians, including children, was also a regular source. it was such a problem that people in europe feared that their children would be kidnapped and they would never see them again. often children were worked so hard they died



At the end of the 7 years they were freemen and could take up a trade, many of which were learned during the indenture.




sometimes, but sometimes their masters had ties to government, who would arbitrarily assign additional time to their servitude, up to years

also, many of the people who volunteered for indentured servitude were promised land at the end, but many times they didnt get it, and the masters got away with this, which means they did all that work for nothing

also, a child born to an indentured servant (some women were raped by their masters) was forced to serve as well, and wouldnt gain his freedom until he was 21. many children in indentured servitude died before they reached that age

many people, including people who did NOT volunteer for this, were worked even harder than the lifetime slaves, because the masters knew they only had a limited time with them, so they didnt feel the need to bother to take enough care of them as to keep them alive for a long time.


also, the irish servants in the west indies were said to be treated WORSE than the blacks that were simultaneously there

[Ivory Lee Spurlock]

Originally Posted by MidValleyDad

Do you have any source other than Wikipedia? Although Wikipedia is great for quick checks it is not considered authoritative

There's a book out not too long ago called "Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates" by Brian Kilmeade and Don Yager.

[Mos82]

[quote=ArizonaDesertGuy;42584999]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

An indentured servant owed the owner of the indenture a term of service, typically 7 years, in exchange for the payment of the passage.


Many were sent here by the Courts, typically habitual criminals, and were given the choice of hanging or exile to the Colonies.


its true that many servants volunteered, but kidnapping regular civilians, including children, was also a regular source. it was such a problem that people in europe feared that their children would be kidnapped and they would never see them again. often children were worked so hard they died



At the end of the 7 years they were freemen and could take up a trade, many of which were learned during the indenture.




sometimes, but sometimes their masters had ties to government, who would arbitrarily assign additional time to their servitude, up to years

also, many of the people who volunteered for indentured servitude were promised land at the end, but many times they didnt get it, and the masters got away with this, which means they did all that work for nothing

also, a child born to an indentured servant (some women were raped by their masters) was forced to serve as well, and wouldnt gain his freedom until he was 21. many children in indentured servitude died before they reached that age

many people, including people who did NOT volunteer for this, were worked even harder than the lifetime slaves, because the masters knew they only had a limited time with them, so they didnt feel the need to bother to take enough care of them as to keep them alive for a long time.


also, the irish servants in the west indies were said to be treated WORSE than the blacks that were simultaneously there

were said by whom?