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Old 09-25-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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The Superintendent of Brockton schools, in about 1990ish,who was Black, said publicly when he grew up in Brockton in the 1950s, his family was one of only 3 Black families in Brockton.
Brockton has always been a strong Democrat city,so what explains the population change?
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:15 AM
 
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The Superintendent of Brockton schools, in about 1990ish,who was Black, said publicly when he grew up in Brockton in the 1950s, his family was one of only 3 Black families in Brockton.
Brockton has always been a strong Democrat city,so what explains the population change?
White flight and Gentrification pushing folks out of Boston. Also immigrants coming to MA for better jobs/education .

Folks in your demographic are selling their homes and buying cheaper properties down south.

In the 1970s-1990s saw relatively little demographic change in MA because it really wasn’t nearly as desirable as it is today- so in some municipalities the change is especially rapid. Think of it as backlog.
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:32 AM
 
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Old 09-26-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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White flight and Gentrification pushing folks out of Boston. Also immigrants coming to MA for better jobs/education .

Folks in your demographic are selling their homes and buying cheaper properties down south.

In the 1970s-1990s saw relatively little demographic change in MA because it really wasn’t nearly as desirable as it is today- so in some municipalities the change is especially rapid. Think of it as backlog.
Brockton saw very much demographic change, 1970s-1990s.
In the 60s to early 70s, several housing Projects were built and opened in Brockton.
This brought tens of thousands of Boston residents to move into Brockton---can i say non whites without being called a racist?
About 1972, Brockton was 12% percent Non white.
About 1986ish, then Police Chief of Brockton noted Brockton had its first gangs in the city--but they were really not gangs but loosely organized groups of youths
About 1988ish? the majority of births at Brockton Hospital were Non white.
About 1992ish, Brockton Desegregated the predominately white schools.
About 2000, Brockton schools were 75% majority Non white.
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Old 09-26-2020, 10:45 AM
 
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Brockton saw very much demographic change, 1970s-1990s.
In the 60s to early 70s, several housing Projects were built and opened in Brockton.
This brought tens of thousands of Boston residents to move into Brockton---can i say non whites without being called a racist?
About 1972, Brockton was 12% percent Non white.
About 1986ish, then Police Chief of Brockton noted Brockton had its first gangs in the city--but they were really not gangs but loosely organized groups of youths
About 1988ish? the majority of births at Brockton Hospital were Non white.
About 1992ish, Brockton Desegregated the predominately white schools.
About 2000, Brockton schools were 75% majority Non white.
A lot of this is just objectively wrong.

First of all I referenced Boston for 1970-1990 not Brockton. But anyway.

in 1970 Brockton had 89040 people. 86515 were white, 97.1%. 2162 were black, 2.4% https://www2.census.gov/library/publ...4513p3ch09.pdf

in 1990 Brockton had 92788 people. 74449 were white, 80.2%. 12028 were black, 10.8%. https://www2.census.gov/library/publ...-1/cp-1-23.pdf

Compare to the demographic change since 2000. Brockton was 61% white. Its now 27%. Brockton was 17% black its now 51%. Obviously the change is much faster now.

Brockton public schools were 44.4% white 65.6% non white. in 2000.

I also highly doubt the first ever ganag arrived in 1986....

In 1998 49.7% of mothers in Brockton were white non-Hispanic https://www.mass.gov/lists/birth-data
So I doubt in 1988 most births at Brockton Hospital wee to mostly to people of color.
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Old 09-26-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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Brocktons downtown is severely depressed and restaurant have a hard time staying open for some reason. Not sure why-its not an impoverished city overall.
Brockton is incredibly poor and on top of that, it's dangerous, which is why nothing stays open.

The state poverty rate is about 9% and Brockton's is about 16%.

Let's keep in mind the official poverty threshold (as defined by the feds) is a joke so there are many people who are poor for MA but not counted as living in poverty. The median household income in Brockton is about $25k/year less than MA as a whole.
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Old 09-26-2020, 01:40 PM
 
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Brockton is incredibly poor and on top of that, it's dangerous, which is why nothing stays open.

The state poverty rate is about 9% and Brockton's is about 16%.

Let's keep in mind the official poverty threshold (as defined by the feds) is a joke so there are many people who are poor for MA but not counted as living in poverty. The median household income in Brockton is about $25k/year less than MA as a whole.
16% is lower than in most large MA cities. Including Boston.

It's less than every major city east of the missippi other than DC.

With a median household income of 62k and a poverty rate of 16% it is by no stretch of the imagination "incredibly poor" its about average for the US and lower middle class/working class for MA.
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:22 PM
 
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The Superintendent of Brockton schools, in about 1990ish,who was Black, said publicly when he grew up in Brockton in the 1950s, his family was one of only 3 Black families in Brockton.
Brockton has always been a strong Democrat city,so what explains the population change?
I differ with the super of schools.
I lived in Avon, just north of Brockton in the fifties, and spent a lot of time in Brockton.
There were many blacks living on Bay street in the fifties, it was considered the black part of town.
There were a lot of families living there ,so I don't know where this guy got the ides his family was one of three living in Brockton at the time.
That is just not so.
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:39 PM
 
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I 'm just curious.

It has been many, many years since I move to Southern California, from Massachusetts.
As I stated before, I grew up in the Brockton/Avon area, and remember well, the days when whites were the majority.

I remember driving in the west part of Brockton, and it was all white.
Many of the homes along West street, and adjacent side streets that surrounded the Thorny Lee golf course, were high end homes.
Are whites still living in that area presently?
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:46 PM
 
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I 'm just curious.

It has been many, many years since I move to Southern California, from Massachusetts.
As I stated before, I grew up in the Brockton/Avon area, and remember well, the days when whites were the majority.

I remember driving in the west part of Brockton, and it was all white.
Many of the homes along West street, and adjacent side streets that surrounded the Thorny Lee golf course, were high end homes.
Are whites still living in that area presently?
Yes, but they are being replaced fairly quickly.
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