Hanover High School Fires Teacher Over Conservative TikTok (Springfield, West Springfield: real estate, rent)
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My daughters kindergarten teacher has the word brat in her Instagram name. My dh and I looked her up and were kind of like hmm your a kindergarten teacher and that's the name you picked? Lol. She also has another account that she uses to post pics for parents. People need to accept that folks have a life outside of their job. Why people feel the need to rant and rave about controversial subjects on social media is beyond me. They should join citydata! Ha.
My daughters kindergarten teacher has the word brat in her Instagram name. My dh and I looked her up and were kind of like hmm your a kindergarten teacher and that's the name you picked? Lol. She also has another account that she uses to post pics for parents. People need to accept that folks have a life outside of their job. Why people feel the need to rant and rave about controversial subjects on social media is beyond me. They should join citydata! Ha.
Yeah as a teacher, cop, etc., you are in a public trust position and representative of your city/town or whatever. If it's too much for you to conduct yourself like an adult on while on social media (no that is not private), then those probably aren't the careers for you to begin with. Like you said, there's always anonymous forums such as this one to spout off on...
I haven't seen the tik toks so I don't know what this teacher was saying.
I do think that people can have their own views on challenging subjects while still maintaining a job that requires them to interreact with the public (teacher, police, firefighter, etc), but it really depends on how they present their arguments.
If there's a teacher who is opposed to promoting new theories on gender/sex etc and they wish to discuss it, I think any intelligent discussion is good for the public discourse. However, if they're presenting in a hyperbolic way that marginalizes people people who think differently then there probably isn't a place for them in our school system. For example
Teacher 1. A teacher makes a video that comes out against giving kids puberty blockers and giving girls hormones before they turn 18. The video is well researched and she uses her facts and experience to present an intelligent case to stop this fad.
Teacher 2. Another teacher makes a video that insults and derides trans kids and their parents for going against God/nature/whatever while using slurs and insensitive and hyperbolic language with the sole purpose of getting clicks to her video.
I'd like to think we all agree that Teacher 2 should lose her job, while Teacher 1 shouldn't. The problem these days is that we seem to lump all of the Teacher 2s with the Teacher 1s and that does nothing but harm our public intellectual discourse.
I haven't seen the tik toks so I don't know what this teacher was saying.
I do think that people can have their own views on challenging subjects while still maintaining a job that requires them to interreact with the public (teacher, police, firefighter, etc), but it really depends on how they present their arguments.
If there's a teacher who is opposed to promoting new theories on gender/sex etc and they wish to discuss it, I think any intelligent discussion is good for the public discourse. However, if they're presenting in a hyperbolic way that marginalizes people people who think differently then there probably isn't a place for them in our school system. For example
Teacher 1. A teacher makes a video that comes out against giving kids puberty blockers and giving girls hormones before they turn 18. The video is well researched and she uses her facts and experience to present an intelligent case to stop this fad.
Teacher 2. Another teacher makes a video that insults and derides trans kids and their parents for going against God/nature/whatever while using slurs and insensitive and hyperbolic language with the sole purpose of getting clicks to her video.
I'd like to think we all agree that Teacher 2 should lose her job, while Teacher 1 shouldn't. The problem these days is that we seem to lump all of the Teacher 2s with the Teacher 1s and that does nothing but harm our public intellectual discourse.
Teacher #1 is free to privately share that video among family and friends in her free time. She should exercise better judgement than to publish it on social media or other public space, knowing that she is a seen in the public's eyes as a representative of her school district.
The problem is when you post your views online, its going to influence how other perceive you and how they assume you perceive them. Thats just reality.
Imagine being a confused 6th grader who sees online that their teacher thinks that transgender is a mental disorder/something else with a derogatory connotation. That is really going to impact how you interact with that teacher and how emotionally safe/unsafe you feel in that classroom.
Unfortunately, if you are a teacher, you should keep your views to your immediate circle. The potential negative repercussions far outweigh the potential positive ones.
Teacher #1 is free to privately share that video among family and friends in her free time. She should exercise better judgement than to publish it on social media or other public space, knowing that she is a seen in the public's eyes as a representative of her school district.
Okay then, what if Teacher 1 said the opposite. She says (respectfully and with supporting data) that she supports young students getting puberty blockers and older girls getting testosterone? Would she be allowed to do it then?
Problem is that teacher is a lot more likely to get fired than a teacher who posts something along the lines of “We must give puberty blockers and hormones to every student in order to dismantle the oppressive cis scum patriarchy.”
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Originally Posted by massnative71
Teacher #1 is free to privately share that video among family and friends in her free time. She should exercise better judgement than to publish it on social media or other public space, knowing that she is a seen in the public's eyes as a representative of her school district.
Okay then, what if Teacher 1 said the opposite. She says (respectfully and with supporting data) that she supports young students getting puberty blockers and older girls getting testosterone? Would she be allowed to do it then?
We can go on all day and keep a score card of which is worse or more inappropriate. Point is, just not doing it in the first place is always going to be the right answer and a teacher should know better.
Problem is that teacher is a lot more likely to get fired than a teacher who posts something along the lines of “We must give puberty blockers and hormones to every student in order to dismantle the oppressive cis scum patriarchy.”
You are probably right, but life will never be fair. Hence why it's important for a professional to keep their own nose clean, and not worry about what limits "others are pushing".
We can go on all day and keep a score card of which is worse or more inappropriate. Point is, just not doing it in the first place is always going to be the right answer and a teacher should know better.
I respect your answer even though I don't agree. I'm simply looking for consistency across the board.
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