12-27-2022, 09:00 AM
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I guess I am the odd man out here - I wouldn't automatically assume that a house near a course is going to get regularly struck. I would assume that planners of the course and the neighborhood wouldn't site a home or lay out the course so that nearby homes are under high risk of errant shots. Golf balls are extremely hard and someone can really get hurt if they are hit on a bone or in the head, besides the damage to property... apparently though, it's buyer beware and now I would think twice, no, 10x before considering such a home!
12-27-2022, 10:03 AM
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This case pissed me off. Just feels like a sign of the times. People suing for anything. I'm not even sure I can see getting awarded 100k for broken windows. Yes I can see where the golf club should pay but that's about it. 4 million for mental suffering and anguish over broken windows ? Omg. Cry me a River.
12-27-2022, 10:07 AM
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I guess I am the odd man out here - I wouldn't automatically assume that a house near a course is going to get regularly struck. I would assume that planners of the course and the neighborhood wouldn't site a home or lay out the course so that nearby homes are under high risk of errant shots. Golf balls are extremely hard and someone can really get hurt if they are hit on a bone or in the head, besides the damage to property... apparently though, it's buyer beware and now I would think twice, no, 10x before considering such a home!
I can see this point as well that maybe you wouldn't think you'd be hit as often as these people were but I can't really say that's the fault of the golf course alone. I certainly don't think they deserve 4 million over it.
12-27-2022, 03:48 PM
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Swimming is for the affluent? Where did this ever come from?
Nice deflection. Yes swimming is for the affluent. Swim lessons and access to a pool are expensive. The majority of the world can't swim!
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gall...wim-women.aspx
How many third world countries do you see compete at swimming at the Olympics? How many African countries, Southeast Asian countries, Latin countries compete? If they have any entrants then they usually finish dead last by a large amount. Plenty of these countries compete in cheap sports like track and field, soccer, and basketball.
Yes swimming is for the affluent just like tennis. That's why there are swim and tennis clubs in rich neighborhoods. Ever see a high school in the hood win a state championship in swimming? The talent and skills are certainly there, just not the access.
Rule of thumb, most white dominated sports are for the affluent. Swimming, cycling, hockey, equestrian, and just about the entire winter Olympics sports lineup. Can you imagine how dominant Africans would be at the Tour de France if they had access to those $10k bicycles? I believe one year someone born from Kenya won it. Imagine if the entire country had access to 10k bikes.
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12-27-2022, 03:55 PM
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I kind of get what you're saying about swimming. I don't know if swimming is for the affluent necessarily but most drowning victims in MA over the past few years have been POC. Its been said that their parents and communities don't teach them how to swim. Its a parent involved thing. You have to take your kids for a swim lesson or at the very least teach them yourself.
12-28-2022, 05:07 AM
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Nice deflection . Yes swimming is for the affluent. Swim lessons and access to a pool are expensive. The majority of the world can't swim!
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gall...wim-women.aspx
How many third world countries do you see compete at swimming at the Olympics? How many African countries, Southeast Asian countries, Latin countries compete? If they have any entrants then they usually finish dead last by a large amount. Plenty of these countries compete in cheap sports like track and field, soccer, and basketball.
Yes swimming is for the affluent just like tennis. That's why there are swim and tennis clubs in rich neighborhoods. Ever see a high school in the hood win a state championship in swimming? The talent and skills are certainly there, just not the access.
Rule of thumb, most white dominated sports are for the affluent. Swimming, cycling, hockey, equestrian, and just about the entire winter Olympics sports lineup. Can you imagine how dominant Africans would be at the Tour de France if they had access to those $10k bicycles? I believe one year someone born from Kenya won it. Imagine if the entire country had access to 10k bikes.
Not a deflection. I just dont see how it is affluent.
You dont need a pool to learn to swim. I know I didnt. My family was definitely not affluent. We just swam in lakes and rivers.
You do not need money to know how to swim. In fact, it's probably one of the cheapest activities out there that you can do. Its cheaper than baseball, football, basketball, soccer even.
12-28-2022, 05:41 AM
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I think the income thing and swimming applies mostly to countries outside the US. I learned to swim as a child at the Y. Not expensive. Boys and Girls Clubs also teach swimming in many locations, as do many city/town public pools and recreation departments. Based on my anecdotal observation people who grow up around bodies of water in the US tend to know how to swim more than those who don't. I think it is incumbent on parents to make sure their kid knows how to swim. That said, if putting food on the table is a challenge, or if parents are addicted, neglectful, irresponsible, swimming won't be the priority. Swimming is very popular at the Chinatown Y among older Chinese folks, most of whom come from lower working classes.
12-28-2022, 05:52 AM
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Yes you have to have the desire to teach your kids to swim. Apparently not everyone does.
12-28-2022, 01:30 PM
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Not a deflection. I just dont see how it is affluent.
Swimming is a winter sport. It's expensive to access a pool in the winter in MA. How many poor kids in MA have that access? I'm referring to sports teams ie being on the swim team, not playing around in lakes and rivers. If it's so cheap to swim then why is the sport dominated by rich white countries at the Olympics? Black athletes would dominate just like in track and field if they all had access to pools.
12-28-2022, 01:32 PM
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Swimming is a winter sport. It's expensive to access a pool in the winter in MA. How many poor kids in MA have that access? This thread is about sports ie being on the swim team, not playing around in lakes and rivers.
How is swimming a winter sport? Swimming isnt a team sport by any means. It can be but it doesnt have to be.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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