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Old 01-05-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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You would think that if you grew up in it you would be able to continue the "Aloha spirit" rather than destroying it.
kind of odd
Why would you say that?
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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I wouldn't expect you to. Most of the racism that does surface seems to involve three factors - youth, testosterone, and alcohol.

That's why the two hotspots that come to mind when I think of reports of overt racism in the islands are: outside rowdy bars, and on remote beaches that "locals" consider their turf.
Beaches are public property- they belong to the citizens of the great state of Hawaii, not some fat, drunk, and stupid thugs that still live with their mothers.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Why would you say that?
because he grew up in the culture. that's just me
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i find that hard to accept i dont mean the hostility, that part you are spot on.
i mean the concept that bek they dont like you its racism. you are an invading army they are the natives.
you dont belong there, they do.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Anyhow, a lot of racism comes from people coming here and trying to change things to suit their personal retirement needs, bringing mainland disrespectful attitude and actions...
Can you give some examples of this? Just curious what you see as particularly bad.
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Old 01-08-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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i find that hard to accept i dont mean the hostility, that part you are spot on.
i mean the concept that bek they dont like you its racism. you are an invading army they are the natives.
you dont belong there, they do.
What makes you think the Filipinos, Portuguese, Japanese, Tongans, and Samoans are native to Hawaii?
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Beaches are public property- they belong to the citizens of the great state of Hawaii, not some fat, drunk, and stupid thugs that still live with their mothers.
Be sure to tell them that. Those are the magic words that will stop them from beating the dog snot out of you. Guaranteed to make your vacation much better.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Can you give some examples of this? Just curious what you see as particularly bad.
Sure

A quote from King Kamehameha IV, Alexander Liholiho:
“To be kind and generous to the foreigner is no new thing in the history of our race. It is an inheritance transmitted to us from our forefathers. I cannot fail to heed the example of my ancestors. I therefore say to the foreigner that he is welcome to our shores—welcome as long as he comes with the laudable motive of promoting his own interests and at the same time respecting the rights of his neighbors. But if he comes here with no more exalted motive than that of building up his own interests at the expense of the native—to seek our confidence only to betray it—with no higher ambition than that of overthrowing our government and introducing anarchy, confusion, and bloodshed, then—then I repeat, he is most unwelcome!”

Or in modern terms, instead of natives its locals or others. lie, steal etc(special interests political) (next post
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:01 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Instead of overthrow of a government, try overthrew of a lifestyle. Instead of introducing anarchy, confusion, and bloodshed. Competition, Poverty, Lack of peace and contentment.
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Old 03-17-2014, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific
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Can you give some examples of this? Just curious what you see as particularly bad.
The ones from back east in particular disrespect the land and the old ones who've been here since before Capt Cook and his gang of carpetbaggers arrived on these shores. The biggest offenders want to make it like it was back home. They ruined the landscape where they lived "back home". This land belongs to the Hawai'ians not you and certainly not me.
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