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Old 01-08-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Well, "good mental health" is relative.
I'd say that most people on the planet are not mentally well.
Human beings are destroying themselves and their own habitat.
That is not an indication of mental balance and wellness.
It's also possible to see that many who are manifesting more overt symptoms of mental imbalance are the canary's in the coal mine of the human dilemma.
So many children who are in these times experiencing severe emotional / mental issues are a perfect example of this.
They come into a world that is severely out of whack on so many levels and then are diagnosed by a bunch of idiots and drugged when all they're doing is expressing the sickness of a sick culture.
I agree.
Although, I'm not the most mentally healthy person, I see the trend and consequences, which unfortunately the kids have to pay. I could easily get my active & sometimes emotional kids diagnosed with ADD or Biopolar. Yet, what kid doesn't have a short attention span & can be moody? Parenting is hard... & parents who want to be perfect (or pretend at all costs that they are perfect) will deny any responsibility. We all deny some responsibility to an extent... & that is the primary source of suffering.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I agree.
Although, I'm not the most mentally healthy person, I see the trend and consequences, which unfortunately the kids have to pay. I could easily get my active & sometimes emotional kids diagnosed with ADD or Biopolar. Yet, what kid doesn't have a short attention span & can be moody? Parenting is hard... & parents who want to be perfect (or pretend at all costs that they are perfect) will deny any responsibility. We all deny some responsibility to an extent... & that is the primary source of suffering.
I'm not a parent but i think it must be extremely difficult to keep your kids balanced and o.k. in such an imbalanced culture.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Southwest Desert
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I haven't seen a therapist for years. But I never had a psychologist talk to me about meditation or my diet..There was no sense of a "body-mind connection." The best therapist I ever had taught me how to become more assertive. Each day I kept a record of all the times I said "yes" to people when I really felt like saying "no." He helped me break my habit of being a "people pleaser."
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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I'm not a parent but i think it must be extremely difficult to keep your kids balanced and o.k. in such an imbalanced culture.
Yes, it is. Ideally, a "village raises a child." But many of our "villages" are messed up in one way or another.
Also, as parents, many of us are still trying to deal with the effects of our own imbalance.
This may sound strange... but I figure, my kids are getting brain-washed (as we all do as kids) one way or another...
So almost every day... I read this book of various info (some educations, some moral affirmations, emotional intelligence, etc.) & try to drill it into their head... whenever I can... in the car, or when something comes up. I know I'm far from perfect & that actions speak louder than words... but words are also powerful!
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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I haven't seen a therapist for years. But I never had a psychologist talk to me about meditation or my diet..There was no sense of a "body-mind connection." The best therapist I ever had taught me how to become more assertive. Each day I kept a record of all the times I said "yes" to people when I really felt like saying "no." He helped me break my habit of being a "people pleaser."
This is the whole essense of the problem. In order for a pdoc to really do his or her job, they have to have the time to talk to the patient, and to *listen* too. Those 'sudden mood changes' which get pills are usually only partly organic. They are also triggers but for that you need a therapist and time. It's easier to lull all of it away in a haze. Over medicataion is a huge problem, and patients never get listened to when they want to discuss things like side effects and what they percieve as a much worse state of life from them.

I took myself off medication. I tried to communicate that the side effects were bad but nobody listened. I still cycle and still have deperssion, but don't walk around on a manic high all the time. I've worked with myself, and a clear mind, to deal with what I could of the triggers, and moved away from most of them. I gave up on a system which was already barely fuctioning and with county budget cuts has now shrunk to where there are maybe two clinics in the whole heavily populated county. I'm sure they've just ended the fiction of seening the doctor every two months by now.

The pdoc's ideas can ONLY be judged by how long they see a patient. Five minuts two or three months apart isn't enough. Patients don't want to chance changing things since you'll have a couple of months of no appointments if it doesn't work out.

We need to have them do more listening and reading (like the FDA warnings on meds usually ignored) and stress therapy and talk over more pills. Yes, an underlying problem exists but the solution might not be chemical if you can solve the issues its created in life, but that only happens when time and care is given.
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