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Old 01-12-2019, 12:17 AM
 
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My friend's son was hospitalized for an overdose and the hospital staff feel it was a suicide attempt (I'll agree with them because I don't know the whole situation). He was medically cleared to go to a.mental health center but there were no beds for 3 days. So, he was not allowed to leave the hospital. Now he is confined to a psych ward in a small 16 bed facility for 72 hours.
My question is: didn't the 72 hours start when he wasn't allowed to leave the hospital? It seems.iike this is an additional 3 days.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:31 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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The "clock" probably started when the commitment paper was actually signed. Maybe it wasn't until partway through the hospital stay.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I was put on a 72 hour hold many years ago at a detox, and it was on a Friday night, and I was told they didn't count weekends towards the 72 hours, so I was actually there until Thursday morning.
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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The key is not how many days they are in but how stable the patient is prior to release...
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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My friend's son was hospitalized for an overdose and the hospital staff feel it was a suicide attempt (I'll agree with them because I don't know the whole situation). He was medically cleared to go to a.mental health center but there were no beds for 3 days. So, he was not allowed to leave the hospital. Now he is confined to a psych ward in a small 16 bed facility for 72 hours.
My question is: didn't the 72 hours start when he wasn't allowed to leave the hospital? It seems.iike this is an additional 3 days.

I think they can hold a person an additional 7 days for chemical dependency evaluation. They can also then say person needs treatment for that for 30 days at a cost of maybe $35,000. It's all about making money whatever way they can. They can also put a person on toxic drugs that have very bad side effects, sometimes even death. But if they can charge say $300 a pill, does the psychiatrist get a big cut of that? They can tell a person they need to go to another place long-term, and they may never be allowed to go home again. All this because they misinterpreted something I said.

One psychiatrist wrote down I came in drunk because I had 2 beers a few hours before. Actually, I was extremely short of sleep for some time due to worry. Apparently he couldn't tell the difference, but diagnosed me with a diagnosis I'd never had before for my lifelong anxiety & depression. He apparently felt he knew me better within an hour than I knew myself. Or at least he knew he was required to diagnose me as soon as I came in. For my new diagnosis, I got 3horrible pills. I asked for lists of side effects but they refused, saying if people knew the side effects they wouldn't take them.

Mfr says if you experience these serious side effects, call your doctor & discontinue immediately, may be fatal. Of course, Docs say I must continue even if they kill me.


3 days may mean 3 weeks, or whenever one's insurance runs out. Mental illness is not a medical term it's a legal term.That's why they have mental prisons. When they know the patient likes to complain, they get the court to order the patient to stay. Then there's false testimony against patient in court. Best wishes, all.
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Old 01-18-2019, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The key is not how many days they are in but how stable the patient is prior to release...
^^This^^ The minimum hold is 72 hours but both times I was in one of these places I wound up being there for 8 days. I used to assume if you were Baker Acted (that's what they call it here in Florida) the 72 hour hold was the maximum a person could be kept. If you have any bad side effects from any new meds they give you they keep you 24-48 hours (can't remember which) to make sure any new meds don't cause you any issues.
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I think they can hold a person an additional 7 days for chemical dependency evaluation. They can also then say person needs treatment for that for 30 days at a cost of maybe $35,000. It's all about making money whatever way they can. They can also put a person on toxic drugs that have very bad side effects, sometimes even death. But if they can charge say $300 a pill, does the psychiatrist get a big cut of that? They can tell a person they need to go to another place long-term, and they may never be allowed to go home again. All this because they misinterpreted something I said.

One psychiatrist wrote down I came in drunk because I had 2 beers a few hours before. Actually, I was extremely short of sleep for some time due to worry. Apparently he couldn't tell the difference, but diagnosed me with a diagnosis I'd never had before for my lifelong anxiety & depression. He apparently felt he knew me better within an hour than I knew myself. Or at least he knew he was required to diagnose me as soon as I came in. For my new diagnosis, I got 3horrible pills. I asked for lists of side effects but they refused, saying if people knew the side effects they wouldn't take them.

Mfr says if you experience these serious side effects, call your doctor & discontinue immediately, may be fatal. Of course, Docs say I must continue even if they kill me.


3 days may mean 3 weeks, or whenever one's insurance runs out. Mental illness is not a medical term it's a legal term.That's why they have mental prisons. When they know the patient likes to complain, they get the court to order the patient to stay. Then there's false testimony against patient in court. Best wishes, all.

A patient has the right to refuse medication where I was staying, however the facility may use that refusal as an excuse to keep you longer. I think some hospitals are a little too hasty with Baker Acting someone. The last time I was in one my roommate was there because she had been to two different hospitals with stomach pain and the hospitals couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. She made the mistake of saying "what do I have to do to get some help - jump off a bridge"? The next thing she knew she was sent to a mental health facility. She wasn't depressed or suicidal however by the time she finally left after 3 or 4 days she was depressed. These places are not conducive to getting better IMO. You're much better off seeing a psychiatrist on an outpatient basis unless you are seriously suicidal.
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Old 07-24-2020, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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In our hospital you are held (the term here is "pink-slipped" due to the color of the form) until cleared by a psychiatric evaluation. If a psychiatrist or their practitioner deems you a threat to yourself or others, they can hold you until you are admitted to a mental health hospital, who will then decide when you can be discharged.
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