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Old 06-07-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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It is not time already to recognize a historical reality the same as Europeans recognize what we owe to the romans invading also of the old Europeans nations(Germans ,Gauls, Celtiberians etc with the that they mixed after also .-
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Old 06-07-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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Nop, Hernán Cortés did not create the country, only conquered.

Or you consider Sir Walter Raleigh as the creator of the USA?
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Old 06-07-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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What did Hernan Cortez create?

Mexico came to be from conflict and conquest- especially since there were already advanced civilizations present there.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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Rosa I am sorry much I disagree in this matter.-

The invasion of Rome they annihilate them many cities very civiliced of the celtiberians in Iberia.Rome mix your blood with the celtiberos and she transfer their language the their right and the culture Greco-Roman the most advanced in the world to the celtiberos.-
ROME It IS THE MOTHER OF HISPANIA-

Without Rome ,Hispania would never have been born.-

Would have been born one or more CELTIBERIAS different nations with lower and distinct cultures
that the culture Greco-Roman Western.-
I can not understand how some can discuss the facts and history because we do not guste.

PLEASE FORGIVE MY ENGLISH VERY BAD .-
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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Umm you do know that Mexico had one of the largest civilizations on the planet at the time with well developed architecture and agriculture techniques, right? Some say Tenochitlan was even the biggest city in the world back in the 14th century. Hernan Cortes didn't create ****, stop romanticizing that rapist
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:07 AM
 
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Say in good Spanish language and with Greco -Roman Western Christian Cultural mindset that they the mexicans have Nothing to do with this and that it your true culture,religion customs and language it is the native of centuries ago prevents a rational dialogue.-
I hope that had luck that someday accept the reality of its, 2 origins, and avoid frustrating current fight useless and against one of them ie against a part of themselves.-
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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Mexico was conquered, Mexico was not colonized.

There is a difference between conquering and colonizing. INDIA WAS CONQUERED BY THE BRITISH...... AUSTRALIA WAS COLONIZED BY THE BRITISH.

See the difference?

CONQUERING: When a territory has an advanced civilization living in it, there are laws, rules and cultural norms..... then a foreign civilization comes and rules it. (SORT OF LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE USED TO DO WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLES LIKE THE GREEKS, OR THE BRITISH DID IN INDIA)

COLONIZING: When you have pretty much a no man's territory..... Then that territory, everything and everyone in it become part of a foreign power that comes and takes over it. That foreign power creates laws, norms, and turn that territory and those living in it into a society. (Like the British did in Australia or the French in Quebec)

MEXICO AND PERU = CONQUERED

COLOMBIA, ARGENTINA, BRAZIL, CHILE = WERE COLONIZED.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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^^ Now that´s an interesting way of see the history.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Irene 69.-
It is interesting this division of the which speak you. but there is a third case.-
When there is conquest and colonization at the same time.

The english empire not they directed the India almost 400 years as the Spaniards in Mexico and did not change their religion,language ,culture ,nor was practically miscegenation with the english people .-

Some say that England let there just a some few golf courses and little more.-

But besides the conquest of the Aztecs by spaniards(mexico was born in centuries later) is some very special.-

Cortes only with 500 spaniards never could have succeeded against the aztecs.-

Cortes led an uprising of millions of indians against the terrible oppression of the Aztecs who were very
minority and those millions of the indians tribes hated to the aztecs to death and they preferred the spanish domain that the of the Aztecs.

The Independence came when the country had created a new people mixed of spanish and indians ,.-MEXICO-
By So I think its absurd to say that Mexico is only heir of the Aztecs.-
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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Absurd is to give all the credit to Cortes of what is now Mexico.

Mexico is the result of centuries of Indian-Spanish miscegenation.

And were not millions. Actually from all the tribes who lived in Mexico only Tlaxcaltecas fight against the Aztecs.

The Maya, Tarascos, Lacandon, Huichol, Yaquis, etc. They were not part of this war.
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