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Old 11-30-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Dramatic situation in the Tijuana migrants camp. Here is a link to the article and photos /www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6442527/Migrants-begin-turn-diseases-endemic-Tijuana. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...SjQ8VGwPJ8A4Kg IMHO the first mistake Mexican authorities allow more than 5,000 people without a visa and the second mistake to send everyone to Tijuana. Another mistake of organizers of this caravan who told these poor people from Central America to go on foot over a distance as big as New York to Los Angeles without a chance for political asylum. What to do now because the situation is getting out of control? The city of Tijuana has no more money because only food for over 5000 migrants costs about USD 30000 per day! My advice: Close the camp for migrants immediately. It is cheaper to transfer all migrants back to Central America as you keep this migrant camp for the entire next year. Each migrant takes a number and has a promised interview for asylum, legal emigration or a guest work program at the US embassy in Honduras, El Salvador or Guatemala.

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Old 11-30-2018, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Canada
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What a disaster. I really sympathize with these people. How ever I think it is time North Americans get more serious about this. If Americans want to stop the flow of illegals of Central Americans into their country then they need to put more pressure on these countries to clean up their act. Stop turning a blind eye to what their extremely corrupt governments are doing. Honduras and Guatemala are basically narco states. The worst of the worst. Our media constantly ****s on Venezuela. Why do we turn a blind eye to what the governments in these countries do?


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Old 12-01-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Because we have no right to meddle in the affairs of foreign governments any more than they have to meddle in ours?

We would be accused of imperialism.
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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If Americans want to stop the flow of illegals of Central Americans into their country then they need to put more pressure on these countries to clean up their act.
Maybe.

But they have had some two hundred years to do it themselves, which is where the overwhelming preponderance of the blame lies, themselves.

We will not be a mirror of their failings, we have enough of our own to reflect on.

Thank you.
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Maybe.

But they have had some two hundred years to do it themselves, which is where the overwhelming preponderance of the blame lies, themselves.

We will not be a mirror of their failings, we have enough of our own to reflect on.

Thank you.
So then don't complain and stop snorting so much cocaine up your noses. Thank you.
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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So then don't complain and stop snorting so much cocaine up your noses. Thank you.
Personally, never did complain nor snort cocaine.

You're welcome.

I have always had especial respect for humans who blame others for their own failings.
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Personally, never did complain nor snort cocaine.

You're welcome.

I have always had especial respect for humans who blame others for their own failings.
Asking for help is not the same as blaming some one for their failings.

Your fellow Americans seem to love snorting cocaine, it is the biggest market for cocaine in the world. They seem to love heroin too.

You're welcome.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Asking for help is not the same as blaming some one for their failings.

Your fellow Americans seem to love snorting cocaine, it is the biggest market for cocaine in the world. They seem to love heroin too.

You're welcome.

Oh my! Don't get out much. Canadians have just as big of an appetite for cocaine and heroin as Americans do. And those in your frozen wasteland get it from Mexico too.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6034966/

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/he...revention.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8d8047bec674


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Old 12-09-2018, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Because we have no right to meddle in the affairs of foreign governments any more than they have to meddle in ours?

We would be accused of imperialism.
Our own corrupt government has been meddling in the affairs of Central America for decades and decades, most recently Trump supporting the evil, corrupt leader of Honduras.

Back in the 50's, Arbenz would have made a great President of Guatemala, and with him threatening to raises taxes on our U.S. owned United Fruit Company, we labeled him a communist and put our own chose leader in power at that time.

We also tried hard to stop the Sandinista's from gaining power, fed up with the corruption of Samoza's, who had been in power for decades.

And let's not go into the CIA's involvement in El Salvador.This caravan? Well, let's call a spade a spade: Paying for the sins of our Fathers!

I do feel sorry for the Tijuanese, the caravan and the regular dumping of those being released from prison in CA at the Border.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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Asking for help is not the same as blaming some one for their failings.

Your fellow Americans seem to love snorting cocaine, it is the biggest market for cocaine in the world. They seem to love heroin too.

You're welcome.
And who do you think brings that crap over here?! It's coming over the border with fetanyl, killing Americans and coming by boat on our coastlines. Evil? You bet.
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