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Old 12-09-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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25,000 of them were hardened criminals. Unless they went back, they are probably in Miami now.

Miami is #12 in murder rate. See the link I posted.
You realize people stop committing crime at an old age right? And that most of those people were imprisoned at some point in America? Why don't you look up the neighborhood homicide rate in Miami? Nothing about it screams "1980s Cubans did this"

That's like me blaming Northeastern transplants for crime here because decades ago Italian, Irish, and Jewish populations had organized crime.

Those Cubans (and Colombians) WERE responsible for lots of crime but it's 2016 and that era is over.
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You realize people stop committing crime at an old age right?
Crime breeds crime. Those 25,000 hardened criminals probably started gangs and sold drugs. These gangs and their effect on the community may well outlive their founders.
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Old 12-09-2016, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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From what we see today, on violent crime, specifically premeditated death by gun, is focused in and around haitian american communities. If there were organized gangs of Marielitos, they either are in jail, still, or realized that running a Cuban Restaurant is more profitable, or a Botánica?
A few years ago the Miami Herald reported that about 65% of Murder victims in Miami where black men under the age of 35 who were killing each other.
Quite tragic and I will try to find that article.
The rest of murder victims were domestic related and very few were just random murders such as robbery victims.
If you really want to see Gang related violence and murders go to LA or Chicago and even then most citizens not involved won't be victims for the most part.
If Miami had a murder issue with innocent people being killed there wouldn't be millions of tourists visiting the city .

Miami just hosted another successful Art Basel with over 100,000 art patrons attending and how many were killed ?...........Zero !
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Old 12-09-2016, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Miami FL
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According to Wikipedia, Miami has a high murder rate, for an American city: it's higher than that of D.C. and almost 10x that of San Diego.

This may have something to do with those 25,000 criminals Castro unleashed on America.
And let's say those criminals reproduced themselves having 2 sons in average, that had another 2 sons in turn, since two generations has passed, so it will add up around 100,000 of possible criminals with similar way of thoughts, culture, and way to see life.
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Doral
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Honestly, your math skills are completely off.

Let's say we have 5,000 criminals in 1980, and even agreeing that they have 4 kids on average (unlikely, but hey, just for argument). By 2000, we maybe have 25,000 total "bad genes". Probably by 2016, a few of the kids have managed to reproduce, but even if they have, they're probably under 10, and unlikely to be engaged in much criminal activity.

Of course, the real truth is that

1) criminality is not determined by your genes.

2) if you live a criminal lifestyle, the odds are you won't manage to have 4 offspring before ending up murdered or in jail. Probably the average rate of offspring is more like 2. So instead of ending up with 25000, maybe we end up with like 12,500. Because daddy the criminal also isn't likely to live a long life either. More than 1980, but really, considering the total population, still rounding error in the grand scheme of things.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:45 PM
 
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I never tried any of those
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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By the way, an Italian rode into the wrong neighborhood in Latin America, because of a GPS error, and got killed as a result:

Italian tourist killed after GPS system leads him into Rio favela

I don't know if Miami counts as Latin America (I heard it's its "capital"), but be careful out there, my Italian amigos!
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Europe
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I don't believe that what that someone wrote is right. In the 1980 we had in Italy 150.000 people affiliated to Mafia, N'drangheta, Camorra and Sacra Corona Unita. Today we have not 600.000 people affiliated to these. Why?

1) many are died
2) many are in jail
3) not all children become criminals
4) some ( few ) are informator
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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One thing people forget is that some of the "criminals" were nothing more than political prisoners. The biggest racketeers in this area are in Miami-Dade government. They take bribes ans shake out small businesses who compete with their associates. The destruction of Miami starting in the 1980's was funded by drug money, which was only possible due to drug prohibition. You can have a family with no crime history, then put their children in a situation where crime is the only way to get ahead financially. What will the kids do, suffer and starve or commit crimes and thrive? You have to work around the law to get anywhere in Miami, whether you do it through high priced lawyers or by street crime. Miami has a history of corruption dating back to its founding, and only when its resources were all but used up did the corruption turn in to eat itself.
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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Wowww!! Your analysis is terrible!! I hope that someone denies what you say, your words are hards same rocks!!!
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