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Old 10-13-2023, 08:02 AM
 
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Or better yet, the age old mantra after the Confederacy lost the Civil War to the Union troops, "The South Shall Rise Again"!!! And whether you're from VA, NC, SC, & GA, and as far away as LA & TX, the South is starting to take over by a lot these days in almost every sphere!



I also have to wonder whether Atlanta will continue to expand into states such as AL, TN, and SC, with a lot of the unhealthy growth and sprawl expanding to the state limits and even encroaching those states as in the case of the Atlanta CS which encroaches into Chambers County, AL. Especially with no commuter rail plans drafted by the local, county, and GA state gov't's. There's growth, but with no regional mass transit (MARTA isn't enough) for exurb Atlanta, and possible drought and water issues, Atlanta will struggle if you can't get those two issues straightened out.

Yes, the Miami CSA does have sprawl, but it's also a linear growth south of Miami to Homestead and north of Miami to regional cities such as Ft Lauderdale and West Palm Beach. And even though the Miami CSA did start out as an auto centric region, the roots of Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach can be noted by Henry Flagler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Flagler), the railroad magnate for Florida East Coast Railroad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florid..._Coast_Railway), as well as a developer for West Palm Beach and Miami.

Had Flagler not extended his railroad further South into WPB, Ft Lauderdale, and Miami, then Jacksonville would've been the largest metro in FL, not Miami. The fact that Flagler had the foresight to do such a feat as extend his railroad into southern FL actually spurned a lot of growth, to the point where Miami is a top 10 MSA and soon to be top 10 CSA.

Atlanta's roots do start out as a rail hub, and the original name of Atlanta was Terminus, and although it's now a major air and road hub, what was originally a major rail hub isn't as apparent during the first time it was founded and during railroading's bustling times during the late 1800's to the 1960's. Miami, Orlando, and soon to be Tampa and Jacksonville are having or going to have a major revival once Brightline reaches those towns.

Lastly, everybody's talked about Miami's flooding problems, as if it's the only city that's having them. Over 18 years ago, NO was flooded, and today, it's still surviving and thriving. Amsterdam and Rotterdam have lower elevations in the negative and those cities in the Netherlands are the first and second, respectively, largest cities in that country. Other cities, such as NY, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC, have low elevations similar to Miami in many spots close to the water. If Amsterdam and Rotterdam are still thriving to this day, and NY is the financial and economic capital of the country, with much lower points around the city than Miami and South FL ever has, then Miami will survive through the rest of this century and beyond!!!
No, no, no only Miami will sink! That's the narrative. You can't move off that narrative even though NY's subways, highways, and airport passenger terminals were underwater about a week ago from Ophelia. Only Miami will flood. That's the story.
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:54 PM
 
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then Miami will survive through the rest of this century and beyond!!!
personally I think it's hysterical.....

people that don't have a pot to pizz in.....are screaming Miami is sinking

....and people that do have that huge pot.....are buying up Miami as fast as they can

Bezo just bought another house...elevation ~3 ft....for ~$80 million

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-million.html
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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personally I think it's hysterical.....

people that don't have a pot to pizz in.....are screaming Miami is sinking

....and people that do have that huge pot.....are buying up Miami as fast as they can

Bezo just bought another house...elevation ~3 ft....for ~$80 million

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-million.html
You can add former Google Co-founder Eric Schmidt to the list—bought $114M of homes on Sunset Islands.
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:35 PM
 
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exactamondo.....not one of them are planning on losing money over this.....at some point they will flip them for a profit
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:59 PM
 
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No, no, no only Miami will sink! That's the narrative. You can't move off that narrative even though NY's subways, highways, and airport passenger terminals were underwater about a week ago from Ophelia. Only Miami will flood. That's the story.
So are you saying Miami will lose elevation, meaning that the ground in Miami isn't stable enough to build supertalls, skyscrapers, and highrises? Yes, Miami has been prone to flooding, but Miami sinking, meaning the elevation is declining.

Only way is to suck the water out of the aquifer and the ground above the aquifer starts to subside, meaning that it gets less stable. All the highrises, skyscrapers, and supertalls have to anchor themselves to the bedrock, which is below the aquifer. As long as the structures are anchored to the aquifers, the structure should be stable.

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personally I think it's hysterical.....

people that don't have a pot to pizz in.....are screaming Miami is sinking

....and people that do have that huge pot.....are buying up Miami as fast as they can

Bezo just bought another house...elevation ~3 ft....for ~$80 million

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-million.html
That's also true for many other cities then just Miami alone. It doesn't help that inflation is at an all time high as well as the astronomical rise in rents and housing costs that has plagued Miami and most of South FL. But it's not just a Miami problem nor a South FL problem, but an American major city problem as major cities in America, especially if it's on the East or West Coasts, are seeing astronomical rising costs in mortgages and rents.
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Old 10-13-2023, 09:02 PM
 
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Old 10-15-2023, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Little confused how Atlanta and GA got brought up on a FIFA Miami thread.

First off, FIFA has already selected Miami as a US site for 100 FIFA employees, including the FIFA President. Not as though a decision between Miami and some other city is still pending—it has already been decided.

Not sure why CNN—a news network—was brought into this specific discussion. Fox Sports and Miami headquartered Telemundo have the broadcast rights for the 2026 World Cup Games.

Did I miss something? Oh yeah, 4 hours+ outside of Miami The Villages and potential salt water intrusion 25 years from now will somehow impact the 2026 games in Miami in 3 years?? Asking for a friend.

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Old 10-17-2023, 09:10 PM
 
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Little confused how Atlanta and GA got brought up on a FIFA Miami thread.

First off, FIFA has already selected Miami as a US site for 100 FIFA employees, including the FIFA President. Not as though a decision between Miami and some other city is still pending—it has already been decided.

Not sure why CNN—a news network—was brought into this specific discussion. Fox Sports and Miami headquartered Telemundo have the broadcast rights for the 2026 World Cup Games.

Did I miss something? Oh yeah, 4 hours+ outside of Miami The Villages and potential salt water intrusion 25 years from now will somehow impact the 2026 games in Miami in 3 years?? Asking for a friend.
I guess Atlanta is the most compared city to Miami due to nightlife, economic and population growth, and being meccas for blacks and Latinos, respectively speaking.

It also has a lot to do with the consulate issue I did bring up previously on how the Swiss shouldn't have a sole Southern post in Atlanta alone but in Houston and Miami, but that's past right now, as I don't control what the Swiss do with their diplomatic consulates.
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Old 10-18-2023, 12:49 PM
 
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Little confused how Atlanta and GA got brought up on a FIFA Miami thread.

First off, FIFA has already selected Miami as a US site for 100 FIFA employees, including the FIFA President. Not as though a decision between Miami and some other city is still pending—it has already been decided.

Not sure why CNN—a news network—was brought into this specific discussion. Fox Sports and Miami headquartered Telemundo have the broadcast rights for the 2026 World Cup Games.

Did I miss something? Oh yeah, 4 hours+ outside of Miami The Villages and potential salt water intrusion 25 years from now will somehow impact the 2026 games in Miami in 3 years?? Asking for a friend.
Sorry for my contribution to this being derailed into a city vs. city thread. Atlanta got dragged into the conversation because the Swiss consulate for the entire Southeast is located there. A couple of us bullish on each city's future got the best of us. I think bottom line, it won't be a zero-sum game as all the cities in the South rise up to create a new superregion similar to the Boston-Washington corridor.
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Old 10-18-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Sorry for my contribution to this being derailed into a city vs. city thread. Atlanta got dragged into the conversation because the Swiss consulate for the entire Southeast is located there. A couple of us bullish on each city's future got the best of us. I think bottom line, it won't be a zero-sum game as all the cities in the South rise up to create a new superregion similar to the Boston-Washington corridor.
all good.
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