2009 downtown Miami master plan (Miami Beach, Kendall: mover, homes, buses)

[Wild Style]

Found this -----> link (http://www.greatermiami.com/pdfs/chamber_in_action/CoC_Roadmap_to_Successmtg_090210FINAL.pdf - broken link) on the web and thought it would be interesting to get everyone's take. I think its a decent idea. I don't like that they are planning to build yet another mode of mass transit (a street car) instead of expanding what is already there (metromover) and start charging to ride it! Also, they seem to want to build far more garages than I think is necessary. build key garages near mass transit and let people take that or walk around downtown. the increased foot traffic would help the local businesses! Also, they are planning a farmers market (good stuff). Anyway, look forward to seeing other people's take on it. I will add other links for the parks if I can find them.

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Bicentennial Park master plan -----> link (spoke about in the main master plan but not in depth)

Another good visual with Bayfront Park plan included -----> link

Flagler Street master plan ------> link (http://www.greatermiami.com/pdfs/A%20DiscussionAboutFlaglerStreet.pdf - broken link) (a little bit of cool history thrown in there too)

[doggiebus]

That was interesting great link, as many of the things people here on CD have said are in that plan. If they can do many of these things, that would be wonderful. If they make a Fisherman's Wharf that would be really cool, it needs to be air conditioned though...Yet there isn't a plan for the metrorail in this whole thing. They really need to work on that part. At least connect it to the airport and Miami Beach. They still want that expensive tunnel too, crazy.

[Wild Style]

doggie

they want to build a light rail system instead of expanding the metrorail. I don't understand why they would do that?! That is absurd to me, why would you abandon the one good mass transit thing you have going and build ANOTHER boondoggle.

[unradical]

They really need to get over that tunnel, and focus on making a lot of that other stuff happen. I also don't see that "revitilization" of Overtown happening any time soon, and until they can accomplish that, a lot of the other issues that plague Downtown today will remain. Unfortunately, with all the money issues the city seems to be going through, I'm not exactly sure how they can fund this.

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

Originally Posted by Wild Style

doggie

they want to build a light rail system instead of expanding the metrorail. I don't understand why they would do that?! That is absurd to me, why would you abandon the one good mass transit thing you have going and build ANOTHER boondoggle.

what do you mean by a light rail system? Like the metromover? Maybe it's not such a bad idea as long as it's not another separate busway like the one south of dadeland(what a waste of money). They should probably build another train that intersects with metrorail that goes from Miami beach to the airport and through doral(41 st)

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by unradical

They really need to get over that tunnel, and focus on making a lot of that other stuff happen. I also don't see that "revitilization" of Overtown happening any time soon, and until they can accomplish that, a lot of the other issues that plague Downtown today will remain. Unfortunately, with all the money issues the city seems to be going through, I'm not exactly sure how they can fund this.

Obama and Biden are already making the rounds to drum up support and a list for projects for a second stimulus package. Florida is already planning to make a grab for money to build a bullet train. So I can see them getting the money. As for the tunnel, I saw the over all picture, where they will take away the over pass of I 395 (thats the one that leads out to S. Beach from 95 right?) and bury it under ground. I understand why they want to do it though. Makes neighorhoods contingues and I think they want to build a green way. They are aiming for more walkability in the urban core. It honestly isnt to bad a idea.

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by lolitazz

what do you mean by a light rail system? Like the metromover? Maybe it's not such a bad idea as long as it's not another separate busway like the one south of dadeland(what a waste of money). They should probably build another train that intersects with metrorail that goes from Miami beach to the airport and through doral(41 st)

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You have seen these before I am sure. They are big in Europe. Not a bad idea but why not expand what you already have? Having four or five different mass transit systems is confusing and integration isn't as simple as it should be when you do that. I am all for metrorail and think they should just build more lines, ones that go all over the urban core. not a light rail system with its absurd wires over head and its on the street with cars, even more congestion. metrorail is elevated, much better option (in my opinion)

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

Originally Posted by Wild Style

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I agree that won't work, I thought it was some kind of elevated transportation system.

[doggiebus]

I just heard today that the County Commissioners now want to make the busway that connects the Metrorail in Kendall to Homestead, a toll lane calling it the Lexus Lane. People could pay upwards of $12-$13 at peak hours. Not sure how they can do this... I swear these lanes should be left for the buses and the emergency vehicles.

HOMESTEAD IS HOME: "Lexus Lanes" May Come South Dade

[CLTKing]

HAHAHA What a joke!!! With what money are they planning to build all these structures? and who in their right mind would walk these "famous" boulevards when it is 115 degress outside and the homeless and criminals are hiding in every corner!?