09-03-2019, 12:19 PM
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Planning a weekend camping to Tawas and maybe Port Austin. We were planning to bring our canoe. I had hoped to launch at Port Austin (or someplace closer) and canoe to turnip rock on a calm day. However the only information I can find is for kayaking. Is it practical to canoe to turnip rock or do you need sea kayaks only? Everything I see, the trip is mostly shallow, near shore, and glass-like water. OTOH the kayak rentals do not allow tandem kayaks to go to turnip rock, only singles. Not clear why that is. It is not that far.
Obviously a storm can come up and force you to turn around. Of course that is true of canoe or kayak.
Alternately are there other worthwhile places to canoe near Tawas?
This is a spend no money trip so, renting sea kayaks is probably not practical. If there are not some awesome canoe accessible places, we will probably leave he canoe home. It is heavy and impacts MPG quite a bit.
Any other suggestions for amazing things to see/do near Tawas? Never been there
09-04-2019, 11:46 AM
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Well, if you're going up to the Tawas area, hands down the best place to canoe is on the AuSable River. The only problem with taking a canoe is drop off and pick up. It's kind of difficult to arrange that without some assistance. If you decide to rent, there are a couple of canoe liveries in Oscoda--with usual canoe trips going from Foote Dam down to Oscoda.
For a nice day trip, my preference is more upstream. Near the Rollways area, north of Hale, there is a place where I have rented canoes:
https://www.rollwayresort.com
Going from Alcona Dam downstream to the canoe livery is a very nice stretch of the river. You end up just getting into the backwater area of the next dam. You can also do shorter stretches of the river in that section, depending on how long you intend to be on the water.
Depending on your preferences, Tawas Lake might also be worthy of consideration. There's a DNR boat launch there, so you could take your canoe there. It's a very shallow lake and it's more of a marsh. If you're into wild rice, it's the best remaining place in the state with wild rice. It's a good sized lake. You could probably check it out on Google maps.
Even if you don't end up canoeing, make sure to check out the Scenic River Byway along the AuSable River. A couple of the best places to stop are at Lumberman's Monument and Iargo Springs (which is a bit east of where M-65 crosses the river).
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/hmnf...a/?recid=18990 Both have stairs leading down to the river (actually backwaters at both sites), but be prepared for a nice walk back up. They both have around 300 steps so it's not for everyone, but it's worth it IMO.
At the bottom of the stairs at Lumberman's Monument, they have a mock-up of an old floating lumbering camp. If you only do one, though, my recommendation would be to hike down to Iargo Springs. That is perhaps my favorite spot along the AuSable River.
I've canoed the length of the AuSable from Grayling to Oscoda a couple of times, and I've canoed several stretches a few times. It's clearly one of the better rivers to canoe in Michigan, and I have canoed many of them.
If in Tawas, you might as well also go out to Tawas Point State Park. The scaled down light house at Milliken State Park in Detroit is based upon the Tawas Point Light House. I didn't go out to the point this year, but I understand that the high water levels have taken away much of the beach areas, but it's probably getting too cold to swim anyway. Tawas Point is one of the top birding locations in the state, if you're into that.
I'm not sure what type of "camping" that you're doing. There aren't really many good rustic camping options close to Tawas, but there's probably openings at the more crowded sites since it's after Labor Day. If you'd be into hiking over a mile into a secluded National Forest lake spot an hour or so north of Tawas, I could let you know about that.
EDIT: You could also consider primitive camping along the AuSable River. No permit is required after Sept. 10. I've camped on islands in the backwater near Lumberman's Monument.
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09-04-2019, 04:08 PM
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Thank you.
We are car camping although we can handle 4x4 access roads. Just looking for a pleasant place to stay in a tent for a few days with some nice areas to explore. We have been to Saginaw and bay city, but otherwise never int he thumb area. Never on lake Huron that I can remember. We are not spending money right now, so renting sea kayaks is not int he cards.
I did not realize the Au sable was right there. We have done a few overnight canoe/kayak trips on the Ausable, but further up. I would have to look at a map to figure out where. Some sort of wilderness area. We had a canoe rental place drive our truck to us at the take out point.
I was hoping to take the canoe out to turnip rock, but it looks like that might be stupid. Maybe not worth the hassle of bringing the canoe. It is big and heavy.
We were planning to camp at the Tawas point campground if we to choose Tawas. Not sure though, it looks a little developed. We prefer more remote camping.
09-04-2019, 05:20 PM
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Yes, the Tawas Point Campground is a bit on the developed side. I camped there once several years ago but I don't really do much camping in the area because I have a cottage near Tawas.
If you're open to something more inland, there is a National Forest campground at Lumberman's Monument along the AuSable River. (Like Lumberman's Monument, it's on a high bluff area above the river.) As much as I've been to Lumberman's Monument, I've never been in the campground since they moved it from it's location of many years ago. That would likely offer a bit more seclusion but, as I said, I've never been in the actual campground itself.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/hmnf...a/?recid=18836
There is also a National Forest Campground at Round Lake, in the Sand Lake area.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/hmnf...a/?recid=18840 It has some nice wooded sites near the lake. Water levels are high this year so, if canoeing, you can likely canoe from Round Lake into adjacent Indian Lake. The Round Lake Campground is a bit tricky to get to, but I know the area well so I can find it easily.
Both Indian and Round Lakes have lots of cottages around them, but one side of Indian Lake is mostly natural.
Since it's after Labor Day, I would think that any of these sites might be okay. Being closer to Tawas does have it's advantages--it all depends on what you plan to do and go see. My preference is the more remote, the better--which you're not going to find really close to Tawas.
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09-09-2019, 07:15 PM
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Thanks for your help
We stayed at Lumberman's Monument. Great place, campsites are well spread out and it is very clean. The big sand dune chute is very fun and great for swimming at the bottom. Sunsets and star gazing are phenomenal. We spent a lot of time driving the forest fire road trails. Truck has some new badges of honor and we got stuck twice,but it was really fun. We kayaked a little on the lake/pond behind Cooke dam. It was fun, not awesome, but still fun. We should have brought the canoe. Since we had two people and a dog and only one kayak, it kind of dampened the fun. The pond is pretty, but not a blast like the upper parts of the Ausable are.
Lake Huron was a tempest. Large waves spaced only a second or two apart. There was no way to go out in anything but a power boat really. We watched a guy trying a paddle board, but he did not last long. It was fun throwing sticks for the dog to fetch. The waves frightened her at first, but she figured them out eventually.
A couple of notes for those considering this. It was cold at night. High 30s. Not comfortable in a tent, no matter what you do. Even the dog was cold. Days were absolutely beautiful. Warm enough to swim in the late morning - early afternoon. Very few bugs this time of year.
The campground has pit toilets but they were very clean and well kept. No odor.
While there were some nicer campsites we saw, lumberman's has the advantage of the monument right there. WE spent some time on the sand dunes every day, and explored the displays, history videos, trails. The big field is a great place to look at the stars, and the sunset is incredible from the dune or from the overlook deck.
For supplies - Tawas is only about 20 minutes up the road.
We visited the Tawas Point State Park and looked over the campground. It looked absolutely awful. Cramped, crowded and ugly. Just a sea of RVs parked a few feet apart. The park itself was Meh. A nice beach on the lake side and some tiny beaches for dogs on the bay side. Lighthouse is neat, but nothing special. We enjoyed exploring East Tawas (A street and a a half) more than we liked the State park. It was not awful, just not worth the price of admission. The park on the lake in Oscota was a lot nicer.
Never made it to the thumb since kayaking on the lake was obviously out of the question, even if we rented sea Kayaks.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)