[Tricia819]

Under the terms of the Stabenow-Levin agreement, Ontario committed to a 20% reduction of Canadian municipally-managed solid waste by the end of 2007. The agreement calls for a total reduction of 40% by the end of 2008 and a complete stop to all municipally-managed trash by the end of the 2010 calendar year.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by Michigansnowflake

Mmmm, yeah, ok, its Malpass first of all and of course they have a foundry in Ardmore, also in a few other states as well.....you dont know jack, stop trying to rain on my parade. You are just jealous because you dont have a secure job, a great home to live in and a wonderful family. Guess you cant stand to see someone else happy, too bad. Spout whatever nonsense you need to to make yourself feel better. My husband actually works side by side with the Malpasses, I think I know just a bit more than you do.

Is that Admore,OK. ?

[Michigansnowflake]

yes, it is

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

If it wasn't so much more expensive to live in Michigan than Kansas, I would pack up right now. I was surprised to hear so much grumbling about Michigan where I spent the first 21 years of my life. I grew up in Cassopolis and haven't been back in 30 years but I had always planned to come home. We have moved around a lot and people now seem generally unhappy about the conditions where they live. Our standard of living has been sliding for everyone in the US. Everybody has less funds and the pension plans are gone, the country doesn't produce anything anymore and the weather has produced so many problems. So, where would you go from Michigan? If there were a Utopia, I would be there right now. It's tough all over.

We use to go to cattle auctions up there(CopeMish). Are they still known for that?

[Honeyblossom]

I know so many people who are moving away it is almost sad to pick up the phone and call anyone, or run into them while I'm out because they are either leaving right away; or they are contemplating it. There was a time when my husband and I were ready to pack-it- in but we're trying to tough it out until we finish with our educational goal. But all-in-all, "Michigan is going down the drain". I mean, you have to really have it together like right now because there is no catching up.

[saginawforsale]

Originally Posted by kelly261

I live in Saginaw which is like mini-Detroit. Just go down Bay Rd., the main business artery, and it looks like a ghost town. In fact, there's a website devoted to all the closings titled "Saginawforsale.com". It's truly depressing. But I don't think it's just Saginaw...all of Michigan is in trouble. Too many jobs have been outsourced (mine included) in this state and not just the auto industry. IT jobs, medical transcription, phone company jobs, etc. Gov. Granholm promised all of us that she'd blow us away. Yes, she truly did.

The Saginaw for sale website is actually at http:// saginaw-mi.blogspot.com. (remove space before saginaw). The url you gave is a non active parked page. Check it out.

[tjay]

actually the united states is going down the drain.....

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by tjay

actually the united states is going down the drain.....

Unfortunately.....I have to agree.

[northstar22]

Wow, this thread is depressing. This isn't the end of the world, folks.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Unfortunately.....I have to agree.

I think it's justs going to be a little longer before people start to wake up.

This is globalism, and too many people adore the politicians, worship them like they worship Hollywood celebrities and question nothing NBC news tells them.

Too many still believe in a Santa Claus kind of government, or more often a Robin Hood kind of government, one that robs the working taxpayer and gives to the so-called poor.