Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-05-2008, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
4,428 posts, read 6,510,291 times
Reputation: 1721

Advertisements

Would a mass exodus from Michigan be a bad thing for the state?

Would a large migration out of the state allow for breathing room to renew, rebuild, and reshape the state? Or is it only a bad thing when a large amount of the population leaves?

What are the real positives and negatives that you guys see from this situation?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-05-2008, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
3,816 posts, read 6,448,982 times
Reputation: 6567
Breathing room? What does that mean? Don't get it.

The exodus out of Michigan has been going on for over 30 years now. Where have you been? Take a look at what's happened to this state over that period of time and you'll have your answer.

I just don't understand the premise of your topic. How could a state possibly ever benefit - and I assume we're talking economically - from losing a substantial portion of its population?

Unfortunately, the ones we WANT to go - like Granholm & Kilpatrick - won't.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 06:38 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
12,083 posts, read 38,859,793 times
Reputation: 17006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Northman View Post
Unfortunately, the ones we WANT to go - like Granholm & Kilpatrick - won't.

That statement alone is worth some rep points
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
8,882 posts, read 19,856,367 times
Reputation: 3920
A mass exodus from Michigan wouldn't be good for Michigan, or for the country for that matter. The ripple effects would be felt all over.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
4,428 posts, read 6,510,291 times
Reputation: 1721
Quote:
Originally Posted by magellan View Post
A mass exodus from Michigan wouldn't be good for Michigan, or for the country for that matter. The ripple effects would be felt all over.
In what ways magellan? You've peaked my interest.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 07:54 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
It depends on who leaves. What if all the welfare and unemployed packed up and left? That would benefit the state. If all the working types leave then that wouldn't be so good. Michigan can have less people, it had many less people back when it was doing well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
382 posts, read 1,054,215 times
Reputation: 148
Sensitive topic, but very reasonable to consider

Detroit is clearly over populated, meaning, the city size (area and pop.), is still very large and will never fully recover without a dramatic land-use plan to reorganization of the city's intended, grid layout. Many are thinking about landscaping/planting vacant lots and even urban agriculture.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
8,882 posts, read 19,856,367 times
Reputation: 3920
Quote:
Originally Posted by baystater View Post
In what ways magellan? You've peaked my interest.
$353 Billion dollars in Gross State Product just pulled from the American economy would be quite a blow. Plus, much of the country's resources for power production and other industries travels the Great Lakes through the St. Lawrence Seaway. With no one in Michigan at the helm (at the Soo Locks for instance), commerce would come to a halt.

The amount of trade that crosses between Windsor, Ontario and Detroit every year is more than all of the trade between the U.S. and Japan. I guess American and Canadian consumers and companies just won't need that stuff anymore?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
4,428 posts, read 6,510,291 times
Reputation: 1721
Quote:
Originally Posted by magellan View Post
$353 Billion dollars in Gross State Product just pulled from the American economy would be quite a blow. Plus, much of the country's resources for power production and other industries travels the Great Lakes through the St. Lawrence Seaway. With no one in Michigan at the helm (at the Soo Locks for instance), commerce would come to a halt.

The amount of trade that crosses between Windsor, Ontario and Detroit every year is more than all of the trade between the U.S. and Japan. I guess American and Canadian consumers and companies just won't need that stuff anymore?
Thank you for your reply.

Well........what is the percentage of Michigan's population involved in these jobs? It it that large? It seems to be lack of jobs/industry that hounding Michigan right now. At least from my perpective.

Now let me just say, I'm not saying everyone would be leaving Michigan but a somewhat large percentage of the population. Mostly ones that can't find or create there own jobs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2008, 09:51 AM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
7,708 posts, read 14,088,996 times
Reputation: 7044
What we're seeing is that educated & skilled folks are leaving in droves. That hurts in many areas.

1. People with money spend money and pay taxes. New home construction goes down, tax base goes down, etc.

2. Companies won't be willing to expand or locate in MI when there's a lack of talent in the area.

3. Those that stay in MI will see a rise in the cost of living, mainly higher taxes, as the state government will try to recoup the losses much quicker than cutting back.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:57 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top