04-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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Hi All,
I've been living in Philadelphia or its suburbs (S. Jersey) for my entire life. My family and I are considering relocating to Michigan for a few years (up to 3 years). We must be near major medical centers, which I'm assuming would be either near Detroit or near Ann Arbor. We also want very good public schools, low crime, and of course, we want to spend as little as possible. Another important factor is that I'd like to be sure that the house will not be terribly difficult to sell a few years from now, although we expect we will get a full buyout from hubby's company again down the road.
The CNN best city survey mentions Plymouth, MI, which looks very nice...
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions.
04-22-2009, 07:48 PM
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Perfect fit!
Hey EirM21-
This all could work out briliantly. We live in Royal Oak-which is a perfect city for many reasons.
1.)Centrally located to all major highways (roughly 5 min to I75& 696)
2.)10 minutes from Beaumont Hospital, 15 from Macomb Hospital 15 from Henry Ford (Im in the medical field as well and it has been the perfect location for my job)
3.)Small knit communities to raise your family
4.)The neighborhoods have a historical feel to them, beautiful homes with a variety of price ranges.Tons of parks too!
5.)An indepenant downtown shopping/restaurant area
Need I go on
The reason why this could all be brillant is my husband and I are hoping to move within the next 6 months.We own a beautiful 3 bedroom home.Very modern,brand new kitchen,partially finished basement,extended deck off the back room. Move in condition! Is walking distance to 3 parks, and the downtown area. If you decide that Royal Oak might be a good fit for you and your family, we'd be more than happy to send you some pics of our home and neighborhood. Also, if you werent intested in buying, we wouldnt mind renting it to you,or renting to own.
Let us know if you have any questions or concerns-id love to help out if i could.
good luck, and you'll love Michigan! Especially this area!
04-22-2009, 09:06 PM
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Rochester and Troy.. both close to Beaumont and Crittenton. Lots of foreclosures, fantastic schools great cities.. worth checking out
04-23-2009, 11:22 AM
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Thank you both so much for your replies!!! I am soooo nervous about this - Michigan seems so beautiful, but I have been in my area for more than 40 years!
Beegan - I will definitely let you know about the pix - we would be participating in corporate relo, so we would definitely be working with a realtor. I need all the help I can get!!
What do you all think of AA? The town seems very attractive for a number of reasons....
04-23-2009, 12:14 PM
Location: Michigan
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I think it boils down to what exactly you want in an area. The way our freeways are set up you can live in the northern suburbs and still have a good selection of good hospitals. If you like homes stacked on top of one another with a BIG downtown and a lot of people, the above mentioned cities would suite you just fine. I grew up in Southfield. I would never want to live in that area or any of the others mentioned because I prefer more open space, cleaner air, less traffic and people. Where I live there is nothing that is too far to enjoy with little effort or drive time. But when I come home and want to sit on my deck out back there are few other places I'd rather be. I drive past 3 lakes while taking my son to school, we often see wild turkeys, deer and other animals. I have a pond across the street from my house and the orchestra of frogs sing me to sleep every night. Next city down has a very nice downtown area, with festivals, bars and night life. 10 minutes clear uncrowded drive to get there. But then again some people feel they have to have those cookie cutter neighborhoods with sidewalks and people on top of one another. Yuck! Not for me. Our schools are terrific, low to almost no crime and compared to a lot of other area's our taxes are livable. Think about what your needs and desires are exactly and post them. You'll get better input. Good luck and welcome to Michigan. ( when you get here)
04-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Plymouth is awesome with great schools. Plymouth has a quaint downtown with a small town atmosphere. Loads of community events and festivals. Very close to Ann Arbor (best Hospitals IMO).
Royal Oak will not meet your needs. The schools are not good and it is not a very nice place for children. It is too crazy and too adult. (Want ot explain what a nipple clip is after walking past a store?). It is a fun hip place for 20 somethings. Not so much for families.
It heavily depends on where you will be working. If in Ann Arbor, Ann arbor is great (not my choice for children, but lots of peopel do it). Chelsea, Dexter Saline, Plymouth, Tecumseh are all near Ann Arbor and have good to great schools and are really neat old fashioned small towns. If you want modern cookie cutter subdivision life (which many people seem to prefer) Canton is a decent choice,
Northville is farily quaint, not far from Ann Arbor or Detroit and has great schools. South Lyon the same but less quaint. Milfrod is also quaint but getting a bit remote and schools are less outstanding.
As you get in closer to Detroit, my favorites are Grosse Ile (island community wooded lots of wildlife) Grosse Points (the oldest upscale community around). Brimingham is very nice and very upscale. All of these communities have really great schools. Rochester fits this mold too but is a bit of a drive from Detroit or Ann Arbor.
If you like the subdivision/suburbia lifestyle, look at Troy, Utica, West Bloomfield, and, if you like to drive Rochester Hills.
Hunt around this and the Detroit areas and you will find a lot of information about these communities. There is a post under "Detroit" entitled something like "What are the best Detroit Suburbs" that has discussions of loads of communities. Several other threads have lots of inormation too. Just browse.
By the wya. Plymouth has a webcam in the center of town. It is pretty moring most of the time, but it can give you a peep. they also have a virtual tour of town on their website.
You probably do nto want ot buy a house. Just rent. Lots of houses sit ont he market for three or four years without selling right now. Unless things change, it will be difficult to sell a house. Of course the advantage is that real estate is dirt cheap right now.
04-24-2009, 09:15 AM
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thanks again for your replies!!! This is so tremendously helpful.
JGatti - you are funny
- I hear you about living on top of one another, etc. BUT, I am from a big city (Philadelphia) and so I loooovvve seeing lots and lots of people around. We live on about 1 acre now in a very popular subdivision near Philly that is chock full of kids and great neighbors who play Bunco, go on cruises, have ladies night out, etc. I very much like being part of a "neighborhood" if you know what I mean, but I can appreciate what you are saying!! It's kind of upsetting to think about leaving here, but....
ColdJensens - thanks so much for all the information!! I am going to print this thread out and take it with us if/when we come to look. It looks like I have a lot of homework to do!! I want to let you know and the others how much I appreciate your help. This is so scarey for me. I will post more about what we are looking for. I'm going to check out the web cam in Plymouth! My husband's coworker is from the Detroit area and he recommended Gross Points too - hmmmmm....
All the negative talk about Detroit scares me, although I was born and raised in Philly, so I can relate somewhat I guess...
My husband will be working out of the house, and commuting to various medical centers throughout the state, I'm assuming the largest hospitals will be the most important ones to visit. I also work out of the house, so proximity to major medical is the only concern along with great schools for my 6 and 7 year old kids. I am from a big city, so I love the TOTAL convenience of being a 5-minute drive to the Walmart, supermarket, etc. Twenty minutes or less to the mall. It is all what you are used to. And I don't mind the cookie cutter homes, because I've found that with them comes a number of families who also have young kids. Top-notch schools is one of my bigger concerns and convenience to shopping, post office, dry cleaners, etc. I'd also love a community that has a few decent swim clubs for the kids to enjoy in the summer.
Thanks to everyone!!!
04-24-2009, 09:20 AM
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So, in a nutshell I'm looking for:
Great schools
Proximity to one of the major medical centers (AA or Detroit)
Convenience to mall, stores, supermarket (walking distance would be GREAT or 5 minute car ride....I'm spoiled, I guess?)
Lots and lots of young kids in the area
Swim clubs in the area would be great
Newer homes (we do not want to have to update anything and enjoy the modern conveniences of our 7 year old home) (not a deal breaker though)
Thank you !
04-25-2009, 10:19 AM
Location: Niceville, FL
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If the kids are serious swimmers, the Ann Arbor area has a long and great reputation for the sport. Club Wolverine/AASC was producing Olympians and All Americans long before Michael Phelps stopped over in the area for a couple years, and the high school programs in the city are very strong. The people I knew who sent their kids to Ann Arbor public schools were generally happy with the quality of education there.
It's also a relatively compact city by Michigan standards and you never seem too far from a small shopping center.
04-25-2009, 06:30 PM
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eiram...i too am from Pa. lived there for 31 years...and although we just recently moved here to Michigan...i must say it feels so much like home to us than all my years in Pa. Now this is just our experience..everyones are different. We are located in northwest michigan, and i believe your looking more southeast...i hope it all works out for you..michigan is a wonderful place to live..okay so a bunch will get on here and say about the economy ect...but since i lived in other areas before here...its not just here in michigan...again...best of luck to you and your family..
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People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)