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Old 05-15-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Why the Army, look at all 4 branches for the best fit... Plenty of Nerds in the military so you would be suprised, spent many a night playing D&D...
Heck yea, back in the day they would play dungeons & dragons on the lower level of missile compartment when deployed (SSBN). When computers became popular, there were many gamers in the Navy.

Cool thing about it all is; you can jump into about any group with no problem, even if just to hang out. For example, I hate the whole WWF thing, but it was fun hanging out with those who were real into it. Likewise with computer games, I am not into it, but it was fun playing about all night some Halo or something.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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I want to be a lean, mean killing machine.

Im just smarter than kids my age, I am ranked 12th out of 861 in my class. I swim, run 3 days a week... I dont want to spend another 4 years studying though, figure I'd join the military and my dad was an Army Ranger.

I'd reconsider school. You apparently have high grades. Consider ROTC. It may be possible to transfer to West Point after a couple of years. The reserves are another possibility while in school. After completing the degree you would be an officer.

I think Army Special Forces are the most cerebral.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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And give me the discipline & confidence to succeed in life?
Probably not. But it can provide you with a lot of other things while you work to improve yourself.

Do it yourself. No one is going to give you discipline, confidence or anything else. You are going to do it all yourself if it is to be done.

Read. Go to the bookstore and peruse the section on self help. The most important book in that section is PsychoCybernetics by Maxwell Maltz. But there are many others. Read them all and apply what they teach.

Watch the movie, The Secret.

If you are going to get serious about changing yourself and becoming a better version of yourself, you should start now. Buy some books, watch some videos and start digging through your psyche and learning about yourself.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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As much as I kind of hated being in the Army at the time it did help get me fit and confident. I was 3 years in the Infantry in 84 to 87. We did however spend lots of evenings smoking dope and playing D&D, I guess we were nerds.

All in all I was glad for the experiance and it was good for me, spent another three years active reserve.

I was also glad to be done with it and afterwards became rather a bit of a Hippy- I guess I had had enough of all that discipline, short hair and cr*p.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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It's not going to change your personality.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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The military will give you stability and a place where you can belong.

But I doubt it will make you a much more social person if you are naturally a loner and don't do too well with others.

You might even suffer and get anxiety if you get excluded in the clique forming because you are not funny or cool enough. If you are lucky they might drag you along but they might take advantage of you.

I married an introvert Navy guy and felt really bad for him when I noticed how he always got left out in everything. Took him longer to get promoted also.
I also married a navy submarine sailor, he had previously been in the army before that. He wore air mobile wings until he put his dolphins and pocket rocket on. I asked if there was a difference in the services, he said he wished he had stayed army, at least the politics did not enter into the mix until you became a e7. He said the navy was more technical, but politics came into the picture from the day you got out of boot.

He said in the army you had to count on the man at your back, he usually had a rifle pointed at it. My husband hated politics in the service.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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If you have self esteem issues, you very well may be "changed" with successes. Once you max a physical fitness test, max a proficiency test, get some good efficiency reports, you very well may change your self perception and be less of a "loner, shy nerd"......
This is a point. It takes some luck and doing the right thing at the right time, but yes, the Army can often resolve self-esteem issues if you muster up the determination to do it. There are a lot of niches in the military for the person who may not be the fastest or the most accurate...but who is determined to keep putting one foot in front of the other until he gets to the finish.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Why the Army, look at all 4 branches for the best fit... Plenty of Nerds in the military so you would be suprised, spent many a night playing D&D...
I worked for a few General Officers and Colonels who were definitely "nerds" -but very smart nerds.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Princeton
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I want to be a lean, mean killing machine. So I want to go either Army infantry or Marines infantry. I dont play those stupid video games. Im just smarter than kids my age, I am ranked 12th out of 861 in my class. I swim, run 3 days a week... I dont want to spend another 4 years studying though, figure I'd join the military and my dad was an Army Ranger.
Shy? Loner? and a Nerd? will the Army change you? depending on you're (MOS) Military Occupational Specialty probably not, however, if you choose to be hard charger with an enlistment option, 11X Infantry, OPTION 40 which will guarantee you a slot (RASP) Ranger Assessment after Infantry OSUT, or maybe balls to wall with an Aviation Regiment with the NightStalkers down at Mother Rucker Airfield, or (SFAS) Special Force Assessment and survive your two year Q course, you'll never be the same. Like your Warrior Mentor Dad before you, you'll be on your way and still get a quality education. A mean lean fighting Warrior who isn't shy anymore, who will never be alone again, but will probably still be a nerd, lol. just kidding. Keep us posted, Good Luck
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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I'm not as knowledgable as a lot of the people on this forum. I have no personal military experience, but a lot of my friends and relatives are or have been involved with the military.

As far as I can tell, the military doesn't change personalities. It changes your behavior, and you're likely to gain fresh perspectives from military life and socialization that will further change your behavior. But it doesn't change your personality or core beliefs. Take my niece's father and an old friend of mine from high school: joining the Air Force cleaned them up quite a bit - they're both quite conscientious of their manners now, for example - but they still have the same senses of humor, outlooks on life, etc as they did before joining the Air Force.

So, you have to figure out why you are a "shy, loner nerd" now. Is it because of your intrinsic values and preferences or is it a maladaptive behavior?
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