Human lives don't matter? (Roseville: apartment, crime, retired)

[tlarnla]

I don't understand the police shooting in Roseville. The man was being noisy, but he wasn't hurting anybody. I don't blame the police for breaking in. He said he had been robbed, and may have been in trouble. But why sic a dog on him?

Police dogs can be pretty scary. My brother was attacked by a retired police dog when he was a kid (on our property!) , and that dog went on to attack others later.
If I were backed into a closet with a knife and a dog came after me, I might attack too. I don't wanna be torn apart!
And the police knew this man was frightened and had a history of mental health problems, so why scare him even more by bringing a big dog into it? They provoked him, and it wasn't necessary.

The only crime he was guilty of is lying about his name a couple months earlier, so why did they sic a dog on him?

It's so sad. It sounds like he was a nice guy:

Man shot dead by police after K-9 is stabbed during Roseville call - StarTribune.com


But the saddest part is that so many people on social media think his death is justified.
It reminds me of the case in WY a couple months ago when a bicyclist shot a dog in self-defense, and people all over the country were screaming for his blood.
I think it's because a lot of Americans think human lives are worth less than dog lives.

Nothing against dogs, but why do people value human life less?

[pete6032]

If the police find a warrant for arrest do they have to attempt to arrest the person right then and there on the spot or could they have come back later when he was more calm?

[tlarnla]

The warrant was from December. They knew where he lived. They had plenty of time to arrest him before now.

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by pete6032

If the police find a warrant for arrest do they have to attempt to arrest the person right then and there on the spot or could they have come back later when he was more calm?

Maybe you missed the part where the police came not to execute a warrant but because neighbors called that the guy was going on a rampage. What makes you believe he would have been more calm at a later date?

By stabbing the dog he showed that he was willing to use a deadly weapon on those who came to apprehend him. He could have easily avoided being shot by putting down his knife and surrendering to the police. Bad decision on his part.

I feel sorry for the police dog and the officers involved.

[pete6032]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Maybe you missed the part where the police came not to execute a warrant but because neighbors called that the guy was going on a rampage. What makes you believe he would have been more calm at a later date?

By stabbing the dog he showed that he was willing to use a deadly weapon on those who came to apprehend him. He could have easily avoided being shot by putting down his knife and surrendering to the police. Bad decision on his part.

I feel sorry for the police dog and the officers involved.

I think you missed what I meant. The police didn't know there was a warrant for this guy's arrest, they came on a noise complaint, and then probably ran his name through their database and then discovered he had a warrant. My question is, at the point of discovering that he had a warrant, are the police required to attempt an arrest?

[Ghengis]

Originally Posted by pete6032

I think you missed what I meant. The police didn't know there was a warrant for this guy's arrest, they came on a noise complaint, and then probably ran his name through their database and then discovered he had a warrant. My question is, at the point of discovering that he had a warrant, are the police required to attempt an arrest?

no, they should have told the complainant to call back when their neighbor wasn't acting all crazy and stuff

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by pete6032

I think you missed what I meant. The police didn't know there was a warrant for this guy's arrest, they came on a noise complaint, and then probably ran his name through their database and then discovered he had a warrant. My question is, at the point of discovering that he had a warrant, are the police required to attempt an arrest?

Yes. It is a warrant for arrest. What possible reason would they have for NOT arresting him? I can hear it now. "Yes, sergeant, we found that fugitive that we radioed in about, but he was on a rampage in his apartment, so we decided to come back later when he was in a better mood. Plus we didn't want the big dog to scare him "

[Mason3000]

Originally Posted by pete6032

If the police find a warrant for arrest do they have to attempt to arrest the person right then and there on the spot or could they have come back later when he was more calm?

So if cops have a warrant for arrest, but the criminals are angry or enraged, the cops should go away & come back later? Really?

[PeachSalsa]

Originally Posted by pete6032

If the police find a warrant for arrest do they have to attempt to arrest the person right then and there on the spot or could they have come back later when he was more calm?

This guy was pretty angry last night. Following your logic, the police should have waited for him to calm down, stop shooting at those who angered him, and come back later once he had calmed down to talk with him...

Instead, one more scumbag has been eliminated. Good.

[tlarnla]

According to the audio from police radio , there was a lot of noise when the police arrived, he said he had been robbed, then he settled down and everything became quiet. So they decided to break in. One officer later said there was a warrant for his arrest (after they made the decision to break in). That same officer also said that he probably does not even know that there is a warrant for his arrest.