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Old 05-26-2020, 09:49 PM
 
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No one cherry picked anything. People shared and blew this story up because it was freaking outrageous for the community and people who witnessed it.

Those who abuse power would like to make something like this go away. ---Maybe this cop messed up and didn't think the guy would die, maybe he has done this all along in past arrests and it hasn't been an issue to the outside world because no one died or no one was there to film it, maybe he is full of hate and racism, or maybe just taking out his stress on civilians is a regular thing. Whatever the reason. --- But things like this are harder and harder to hide because thankfully people have 4K cameras in their pocket that can be instantly uploaded to the web.

You may say cherry picked. I say, how many of these have we missed because no one was there to record it?
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:12 PM
 
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I'm usually pro police, but wow...... That was disgraceful. Sadly the bystanders were in fear. Not for nothing, but they should have jumped the cops.
Interesting note that the "suspect" called out for his mom. One of the only times that is heard is on the battlefield when a soldier knows there is no way out and death is coming. This man died on the street. Truly a tragedy.
On the flip side, and not defending the PD what so ever .. committing any crime could cost you your life.

Great idea. and how do you think that would've have ended? A standing ovation with $500 gift certificates


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Not necessarily true...Look up the article about a black doctor in FL getting handcuffed by his home: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1185416

Even he stated that such situations can escalate into something else. So, it may come down to what has been captured.
I'm familiar with that story. You basically answered my question, these things seem to never end terribly for the better portion of the black community. Basically people like me with something to lose and avoid having ugly police encounters. That doctor is alive today.
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:42 PM
 
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I'm familiar with that story. You basically answered my question, these things seem to never end terribly for the better portion of the black community. Basically people like me with something to lose and avoid having ugly police encounters. That doctor is alive today.

You appear not to get the point.


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The home security footage appeared to show a police sergeant handcuffing Dr. Armen Henderson, an internal medicine physician at the University of Miami Health System, as he was placing camping tents in his van. According to Henderson, the officer asked him what he was doing and if he was littering – Henderson told him he lived there.

How does "placing camping tents in his van" appear to be "littering?"



Yes, we can say in this case it did not "end terribly" for the doctor, but the point is: Why did it start in the first place?
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Old 05-27-2020, 12:45 AM
 
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More hypocrisy within the law enforcement system in America. They "accidentally" (yeah right) snuff out a guy that has not committed a violent crime, yet we keep degenerate serial killers like Charles Manson alive in prison (feeding him, clothing him) for decade upon decade upon decade along with countless other murderers.

Those cops should be sent to prison.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:03 AM
 
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Great idea. and how do you think that would've have ended? A standing ovation with $500 gift certificates




I'm familiar with that story. You basically answered my question, these things seem to never end terribly for the better portion of the black community. Basically people like me with something to lose and avoid having ugly police encounters. That doctor is alive today.
Maybe the bigger question is why was the doctor engaged in the first place? I think there are more of those stories than people may know about and it may have more to do with how some people report things to law enforcement.

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:23 AM
 
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Sure and as I said, the background of the officer doesn’t necessarily make a difference, but what is the “agenda” here, when it is pretty obvious as to what occurred in the video?

Again, you mentioned Noor and the difference is that he is serving time for what he did. So, we will see what will happen with this incident.
I didn't see massive national outrage when the officers who killed Andrew Finch or Daniel Shaver were not thrown in prison. In fact, both continued to work as police officers. There was no marching, rioting, or statements made by Madonna.

I know this case was not a shooting, but there are roughly 3 fatal shootings made by police officers every day in the U.S., with a certain number of them being unjustified. Most do not make the national news despite there being video footage. It's also very obvious what occurred in those videos as well, but most of those stories are flat out ignored, while others are picked up by national media. Why does the national media choose to cover certain cases in detail, yet ignore others? When news stories are written, why are racial descriptors used in some and not in others? Where is the national outrage that, by far, the biggest descriptor of fatal police shootings is the "victim" being male, rather than being member of a certain race?

With every news story covered by national media there is an agenda.
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:02 AM
 
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You appear not to get the point.





How does "placing camping tents in his van" appear to be "littering?"



Yes, we can say in this case it did not "end terribly" for the doctor, but the point is: Why did it start in the first place?
Because being a cop is a cop is a high stress job that often doesn't require high education, and features many people one level removed from the streets. Most just wanna get home, but quite a few or power trip jerks. So expect to not always be treated so nicely, it's how you handle it. Like Denzel Washington said "it's a rigged system, why play into it?"

Throw in the fact that cops , black or white have an inherent distrust for black people, and honestly with FBI crime numbers do you blame them when black males make up roughly 6% of the US population and are responsible year in and year and year out for 50% of the nations violent crimes. That's an insane stat.


My step-father used to tell me to not engage with cops in the street. Don't go verbally back and forth, and certainly not get physical. You're young and black so most won't like you to begin with. Just Listen to the questions and commands and If you get ruffed up or arrested unfairly, me and your mother will come deal with it later.

In my 40's not, been stopped at least 15-20 times and somehow still alive, just lucky?
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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Because being a cop is a cop is a high stress job that often doesn't require high education, and features many people one level removed from the streets. Most just wanna get home, but quite a few or power trip jerks. So expect to not always be treated so nicely, it's how you handle it. Like Denzel Washington said "it's a rigged system, why play into it?"

Throw in the fact that cops , black or white have an inherent distrust for black people, and honestly with FBI crime numbers do you blame them when black males make up roughly 6% of the US population and are responsible year in and year and year out for 50% of the nations violent crimes. That's an insane stat.


My step-father used to tell me to not engage with cops in the street. Don't go verbally back and forth, and certainly not get physical. You're young and black so most won't like you to begin with. Just Listen to the questions and commands and If you get ruffed up or arrested unfairly, me and your mother will come deal with it later.

In my 40's not, been stopped at least 15-20 times and somehow still alive, just lucky?

You're trying to rationalize that needing to treat every police officer like a feral pit bull is a satisfactory state of affairs.
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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I didn't see massive national outrage when the officers who killed Andrew Finch or Daniel Shaver were not thrown in prison. In fact, both continued to work as police officers. There was no marching, rioting, or statements made by Madonna.

I know this case was not a shooting, but there are roughly 3 fatal shootings made by police officers every day in the U.S., with a certain number of them being unjustified. Most do not make the national news despite there being video footage. It's also very obvious what occurred in those videos as well, but most of those stories are flat out ignored, while others are picked up by national media. Why does the national media choose to cover certain cases in detail, yet ignore others? When news stories are written, why are racial descriptors used in some and not in others? Where is the national outrage that, by far, the biggest descriptor of fatal police shootings is the "victim" being male, rather than being member of a certain race?

With every news story covered by national media there is an agenda.

In most cases, the media is responding to local community outrage (often displayed on social media generated by the community).


It has always been a mystery to me that white communities shrug off the police killings of white people. But if they were to begin trending these issues in social media, there would be a national media response because the national media will always go for chum like sharks.
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:35 AM
 
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I didn't see massive national outrage when the officers who killed Andrew Finch or Daniel Shaver were not thrown in prison. In fact, both continued to work as police officers. There was no marching, rioting, or statements made by Madonna.

I know this case was not a shooting, but there are roughly 3 fatal shootings made by police officers every day in the U.S., Just stop it already. Really 3 a day? There were 49 shootings in Chicago the other day, and 10 deaths. lol you've got to get perspective.with a certain number of them being unjustified. Most do not make the national news despite there being video footage. It's also very obvious what occurred in those videos as well, but most of those stories are flat out ignored, while others are picked up by national media. Why does the national media choose to cover certain cases in detail, yet ignore others? When news stories are written, why are racial descriptors used in some and not in others? Where is the national outrage that, by far, the biggest descriptor of fatal police shootings is the "victim" being male, rather than being member of a certain race?

With every news story covered by national media there is an agenda.
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