06-22-2017, 04:31 PM
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Hi everyone- my partner and I are looking to move this upcoming fall. We're in our 20s and are looking for a change of pace and new adventure. We currently live in Iowa City, IA and adore its community-centered values, decent music scene, walkabillity, sense of local business, dog-friendliness, and safety. The population is around 70-100,000 depending on when students are gone.
We're looking to move to a similar city in size and qualities. We don't want to live in any super metropolitan areas or anywhere with a much harsher climate. Access to outdoor activities is also important to us.
Based on random internet research, we have it "narrowed" down to nine cities. Does anyone have any information/opinions/preference on any of them?
Please feel free to also recommend other cities you feel might fit the bill.
Thank you in advance!
The cities we're looking into are...
Duluth MN
Asheville NC
Bend OR
Ithaca NY
Eugene/Corvallis OR
Eau Claire WI
Athens GA
Burlington VT
06-23-2017, 12:19 PM
Location: Twin Cities
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I think you need to be more specific about what you are looking for. A change of pace and access to outdoor activities is pretty vague.
06-23-2017, 12:32 PM
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Hi everyone- my partner and I are looking to move this upcoming fall. We're in our 20s and are looking for a change of pace and new adventure. We currently live in Iowa City, IA and adore its community-centered values, decent music scene, walkabillity, sense of local business, dog-friendliness, and safety. The population is around 70-100,000 depending on when students are gone.
We're looking to move to a similar city in size and qualities. We don't want to live in any super metropolitan areas or anywhere with a much harsher climate. Access to outdoor activities is also important to us.
Based on random internet research, we have it "narrowed" down to nine cities. Does anyone have any information/opinions/preference on any of them?
Please feel free to also recommend other cities you feel might fit the bill.
Thank you in advance!
The cities we're looking into are...
Duluth MN
Asheville NC
Bend OR
Ithaca NY
Eugene/Corvallis OR
Eau Claire WI
Athens GA
Burlington VT
It seems several cities on your list are quite liberal and " artsy/trendy"
( Ashville NC, Bend OR, Burlington VT )
Surprised you didn't have Santa Fe NM on your list as well.
I think Duluth is wonderful but certainly not like those three/ four.
06-23-2017, 01:06 PM
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Duluth MN - There's still a very working class vibe to Duluth. UMD is important to the economy but doesn't dominate as in some of the other places. HUGE outdoor region to explore and enjoy. Do you like to ski? Very cold in the winter. Hilly.
Asheville NC Lots of retired people here. I think a couple in their 20s might wish there were more residents in their age group.
Bend OR Arty, getting expensive, lots of retirees here too, and a very varied outdoor area. You can easily go to the beach or out to the High Desert. If you're in Iowa you may want to go to Oregon just for the variety.
Ithaca NY Completely dominated by Cornell and Ithaca college. I think if you aren't actually going to school you may feel not a part of things.
Eugene/Corvallis OR I love Eugene. Go HERE!
Eau Claire WI Back in 2004 I was deciding whether to move to Eau Claire or Northern MN. Eau Claire was nice, but seemed very limited in terms of things to do.
Athens GA I've never been but do have a friend who lives there and loves it. You may want to ask in the Georgia forum whether or not Athens is COMPLETELY dominated by the University. College towns are nice but if you're not a student you can feel not a part of things.
Burlington VT This is the one I know nothing about.
Just based on my own life experiences, I think young people should be exposed to very different regions and lifestyles that those to which they are accustomed. For that reason alone, I think that since you are currently living in Iowa City you should go out to Oregon and explore the new. Or maybe Vermont.
Or what about going to the desert to a place like Silver City, NM or Alpine, TX? Or to someplace fun and random like Galveston, TX?
Duluth is nice, though.
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06-23-2017, 01:50 PM
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Duluth is closer to Cedar Rapids than Iowa City - like the poster above said, it's more of a working class city. It would be a lot colder/snowier than Iowa City as well.
06-23-2017, 02:38 PM
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I lived in Iowa City for several years (and loved it) and while there are some similarities with Duluth as far as size of the metro, outdoor-oriented, and safety, I'd agree with the other posters that it differs in ways that seem important to you. Duluth winters will be noticeably worse than Iowa City and the overall vibe of the city will be more blue-collar.
Your favorite aspects of Iowa City pretty much define a college town, so if you want a change in scenery while maintaining that same environment, I'd look for college towns elsewhere in the country. Ann Arbor, MI (U of Mich) and Blacksburgh VA (Virginia Tech) are two that I spent a few days in and both 'felt' a lot like Iowa City.
06-23-2017, 03:23 PM
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check out Berea KY.
completely different than most places..........small college there......."artsy"....scenic.
I have been there a couple times and I think the word " unique" best describes it.
I really like Duluth, but wonder if Winona MN wouldn't be worth checking out.
06-23-2017, 03:58 PM
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check out Berea KY.
completely different than most places..........small college there......."artsy"....scenic.
I have been there a couple times and I think the word " unique" best describes it.
I really like Duluth, but wonder if Winona MN wouldn't be worth checking out.
Agree with Winona as one to consider for the OP, David. That would make it reasonably convenient for the OP to visit friends in Iowa City and vica versa! The two cities are about 200 miles apart.
It is a scenic college town (Winona State & St. Mary's) on the Mississippi River. Plenty of outdoors activity and at least a couple music festivals.
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07-19-2017, 10:06 PM
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Well, I can only speak of the two cities I have actually lived in. The rest I don't know.
So, I currently live in Duluth, MN. I moved here almost two years ago now. One of the reasons I fell in love with Duluth, MN instantly was because of how much it reminded me of Asheville, NC - a place I completely fell in love with in my teens when I lived there.
Other than me standing in certain locations in Duluth and it reminding me of some Asheville scenery, that's about where the comparison ends.
I lived in Asheville NC for two years as a teenager and I remember the vibrant crazy teens to early thirties folks that lived there. I hung out a lot downtown and participated in the drum circle they had nearly every weekend.
There were a lot of things I wasn't able to do, since I was only there from 13 to almost 16 years old, but I did as much as I could.
There is a lot of culture there. A lot of visual art, a lot of music, lots of different weird quirky places and people. Everyone was super friendly. Super, super friendly. Very animal friendly.
Extremely easy and many options for organic food, farm raised, lots of farmer's markets. Lots of poetry readings. Education is EXTREMELY strong. They had a great active home schooling group, which was so bizarre to me because I had been home schooled in Illinois and our group.. well. Let's just say everyone was home schooled there for the same reason (which is totally okay, but it just brings a different crowd).
The public school system is really good, but there is also a lot of private school and as well as private boarding school options.
If you are into mountaineering activities it's excellent. Fly fishing, mountain biking, rock climbing, camping/hiking, trail running, white water rafting. You can do these things in Duluth as well, its some of these are not the same - there are some nice fly fishing spots here, and mountain biking and hiking are pretty good as well. But it's just not the same for me. But that is personal preference. I feel there are more options in Asheville and the surrounding area, but I could be wrong.
I'm definitely a big fan of the mountains. I love Asheville's mild weather. Duluth is too cold for me. I can't take 5-6 months of Winter. I don't really care for any Winter activities either, but if you're into it there's plenty of dog sledding, skiing and snowboarding.
As for Duluth, Duluth is probably my second favorite city/town in the Midwest. My first being Saint Louis, MO. I like it here. It's gorgeous, and there are a lot of mountaineering activity opportunities here. That being said, it's hard to meet new people here. I don't really know why. I struggled the first year or so I came here with loneliness and isolation. I have read on the board here that others have struggled with this as well and I've also talked to others who have moved here that experienced the same thing. It really sucks if you move here single.
It's hard to find clubs to do things in outside of if you're in college or you attend a church. I tried using meetme but most of the groups that I saw were not active. Best socializing I had for the longest while was playing D&D at Dungeon's End every Tuesday lol.
Other than that most people I know, I met during my time in college or at work. They do have a really dog friendly community here though. They have three dog parks here and I met my fiance at one of them.
But anyway I am actually planning on moving back out to NC area someday. Probably in about 7-10 years, once my fiance and I finish school and apply for jobs. Anywhere in the Eastern side of TN, West side of NC or SC is good for us.
Good luck with your search and I hope my post was somewhat helpful.
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Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)