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FWIW ... i took 2 minutes and went to the HSUS website and found their published mission statement:
September 30, 2009 About Us: Overview
The Humane Society of the United States is the nation's largest and most effective animal protection organization—backed by 11 million Americans, or one in every 28. Established in 1954, The HSUS seeks a humane and sustainable world for all animals—a world that will also benefit people. We are America's mainstream force against cruelty, exploitation and neglect, as well as the most trusted voice extolling the human-animal bond. Our mission statement: Celebrating Animals, Confronting Cruelty.
We work to reduce suffering and to create meaningful social change for animals by advocating for sensible public policies, investigating cruelty and working to enforce existing laws, educating the public about animal issues, joining with corporations on behalf of animal-friendly policies, and conducting hands-on programs that make ours a more humane world. We are the lead disaster relief agency for animals, and we provide direct care for thousands of animals at our sanctuaries and rescue facilities, wildlife rehabilitation centers, and mobile veterinary clinics. We celebrate pets, as well as wildlife and habitat protection. We are the nation's most important advocate for local humane societies, providing shelter standards and evaluations, training programs, a national advertising campaign to promote pet adoption, direct support, and national conferences. We operate a Humane Wildlife Services program in the D.C. metro area to provide homeowners and businesses with humane and effective solutions to conflicts with our wild neighbors. The HSUS publishes All Animals, a membership magazine, and Animal Sheltering, a bi-monthly magazine for animal sheltering professionals. We confront national and global cruelties through major campaigns targeting the barbaric practices of dogfighting and cockfighting; abusive puppy mills where dogs are treated not like family but like production machines; the worst cruelties of factory farming in modern agribusiness such as confinement of animals in crates and cages; inhumane and unsporting hunting practices such as "canned hunts" of captive exotic animals; the slaughter of American horses for export to foreign countries where horsemeat is considered a delicacy; and the clubbing of baby seals and other animals for the commercial fur trade. Our track record of effectiveness has led to meaningful victories for animals in Congress, state legislatures, courtrooms and corporate boardrooms.
I don't see one single word about ending pet ownership or animal agriculture..... do you??
oh, I have heard the hysterical suppositions and the confusion between the HSUS and PETA and other equally radical groups..... I have just never seen any proof of THAT......
The Missouri Farm Bureau is opposed to Proposition B. Here's part of what MFB says (I boldfaced the part that alarms me.)
The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), an extremist animal rights organization based in Washington, DC, has put language on the November 2 ballot that has broad implications for Missouri pet owners and breeders, livestock producers and sportsmen. While Proposition B proposes to implement a number of unnecessary rules and regulations for Missouri dog breeders, this is only the tip of the iceberg. HSUS has a broad agenda that includes eliminating animal agriculture and the killing of animals for trophy or sport. Armed with an annual budget in excess of $130 million, HSUS is pursuing its agenda not in state legislatures but through initiative petitions. Their model has been successful in many other states and we hope Missouri will be the first to reject their assault on property rights and calls for more government regulation.
Many Missouri organizations are working together to shed light on Proposition B. Agriculture organizations, including Missouri Farm Bureau, have formed the Missourians for Animal Care Coalition and members voted unanimously to oppose Proposition B. The St. Louis based Alliance for Truth is bringing together a broad cross-section of individuals and organizations united in their opposition to Proposition B.
Missouri Farm Bureau is a trustworthy organization, not given to hysteria.
HSUS doesn't sound like an organization that shares rural Missourians' interest in farming/ranching and hunting/fishing.
The Missouri Farm Bureau is opposed to Proposition B. Here's part of what MFB says (I boldfaced the part that alarms me.)
The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), an extremist animal rights organization based in Washington, DC, has put language on the November 2 ballot that has broad implications for Missouri pet owners and breeders, livestock producers and sportsmen. While Proposition B proposes to implement a number of unnecessary rules and regulations for Missouri dog breeders, this is only the tip of the iceberg. HSUS has a broad agenda that includes eliminating animal agriculture and the killing of animals for trophy or sport. Armed with an annual budget in excess of $130 million, HSUS is pursuing its agenda not in state legislatures but through initiative petitions. Their model has been successful in many other states and we hope Missouri will be the first to reject their assault on property rights and calls for more government regulation.
Many Missouri organizations are working together to shed light on Proposition B. Agriculture organizations, including Missouri Farm Bureau, have formed the Missourians for Animal Care Coalition and members voted unanimously to oppose Proposition B. The St. Louis based Alliance for Truth is bringing together a broad cross-section of individuals and organizations united in their opposition to Proposition B.
Missouri Farm Bureau is a trustworthy organization, not given to hysteria.
HSUS doesn't sound like an organization that shares rural Missourians' interest in farming/ranching and hunting/fishing.
Farm Bureau has an agenda which includes opposition to any law requiring humane treatment of animals. In Wyoming, they were actually opposed to making dog fighting a felony. This bill has nothing whatsoever to do with agriculture or with pets. But there are people who really believe that inhumane treatment of animals is praiseworthy. The puppy mills treat dogs in a way that would bring tears to the eyes of almost everyone who could see it. Don't let an organization which supports brutal treatment of animals and the brutish behavior of the people who do it influence your vote. Vote Yes on Proposition B.
Well I do detest PETA considering I had two Dogs shot because of one of their members and all she could say was At least they weren't suffering no more. Just because I kept the Dogs in a Pen when they weren't Hunting.
From an independent investigation of HSUS by WSB-TV:
The Humane Society of the United States has little to no affiliation to local shelters and local Humane Societies, despite having a name that leads to the convenient but mistaken identification of the HSUS as the parent organization.
Only a small percentage of donations made to the Humane Society of the United States are granted to local shelters and Humane Societies. In 2007, less than 6 million dollars were handed out as US grants out of over 152 million* taken in (less than 4%*). Of the almost 4%, a large percentage of the grants were handed out to organizations that did not provide direct care to animals in need. (http://ar-hr.com/2009/03/24/sifting-through-the-muck-hsus-financial-grants-and-mudslinging/ - broken link)
After Hurricane Katrina, Humane Society of the United States fundraising efforts raised 34 million dollars. By 2 years after Hurricane Katrina, only 52% (18 million) could be accounted for as spent on Katrina-related activites. (http://ar-hr.com/2009/04/05/money-mysteries-part-1-hurricane-katrina-fundraising/ - broken link) The connection between reconnecting animals with their owners, the premise for the Hurricane Katrina fundraising, was tenuous at best for a number of the projects indicated as supported by Hurricane Katrina funds. As of the 2 year mark, funds related to the Gulf Coast began to make a shift to HSUS legislative goals again. (http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/hsus_disaster_center/disasters_press_room/katrina_anniversary/ - broken link)
Regardless - the issue here is not HSUS. It is the prevalence of puppy mills in Missouri. Sadly - we've been affected again. A "designer" breed puppy that didn't turn out quite right was dumped here on Tuesday. He's a cute little guy but didn't have "the look" this particular cross is known for.
From an independent investigation of HSUS by WSB-TV:
The Humane Society of the United States has little to no affiliation to local shelters and local Humane Societies, despite having a name that leads to the convenient but mistaken identification of the HSUS as the parent organization.
Only a small percentage of donations made to the Humane Society of the United States are granted to local shelters and Humane Societies. In 2007, less than 6 million dollars were handed out as US grants out of over 152 million* taken in (less than 4%*). Of the almost 4%, a large percentage of the grants were handed out to organizations that did not provide direct care to animals in need. (http://ar-hr.com/2009/03/24/sifting-through-the-muck-hsus-financial-grants-and-mudslinging/ - broken link)
After Hurricane Katrina, Humane Society of the United States fundraising efforts raised 34 million dollars. By 2 years after Hurricane Katrina, only 52% (18 million) could be accounted for as spent on Katrina-related activites. (http://ar-hr.com/2009/04/05/money-mysteries-part-1-hurricane-katrina-fundraising/ - broken link) The connection between reconnecting animals with their owners, the premise for the Hurricane Katrina fundraising, was tenuous at best for a number of the projects indicated as supported by Hurricane Katrina funds. As of the 2 year mark, funds related to the Gulf Coast began to make a shift to HSUS legislative goals again. (http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/hsus_disaster_center/disasters_press_room/katrina_anniversary/ - broken link)
Regardless - the issue here is not HSUS. It is the prevalence of puppy mills in Missouri. Sadly - we've been affected again. A "designer" breed puppy that didn't turn out quite right was dumped here on Tuesday. He's a cute little guy but didn't have "the look" this particular cross is known for.
I'm still voting YES.
I disagree.
Since the legislation will not end puppy mills as it claims the issue indeed becomes HSUS and questioning their funding of this legislation and their motivations.
If a novice like me can figure out by comparing the existing law with Proposition B that puppy mills are not being specifically addressed and the unlicensed breeders not given a major deterrence then something else is going on. Given the history of the HSUS they simply cannot be given the "benifit of doubt".
When it comes to making laws, do them right the first time as the unintended consquences are worse than the symptoms treated with snake oil. The more I look at this the more Proposition B reeks of snake oil and the HSUS is the sleezy peddler of propoganda.
Farm Bureau has an agenda which includes opposition to any law requiring humane treatment of animals. In Wyoming, they were actually opposed to making dog fighting a felony. This bill has nothing whatsoever to do with agriculture or with pets. But there are people who really believe that inhumane treatment of animals is praiseworthy. The puppy mills treat dogs in a way that would bring tears to the eyes of almost everyone who could see it. Don't let an organization which supports brutal treatment of animals and the brutish behavior of the people who do it influence your vote. Vote Yes on Proposition B.
Current Missouri and Federal laws already address the humane treatment of animals. The history of the HSUS proves the slippery slope they have used in the past to pass legislation in one area and then use the courts to apply the new standard to other areas.
It is insulting and dishonest to state that people who recognize the obvious faults and shorcomings with Proposition B are automatically against the humane treatment of animals. That is a flat out LIE. Smear tactics at their worst.
I will vote yes because i am one of those who clean up the mess irresponsible breeders leave in their wake........
breeders who are already responsible have nothing to fear from this bill ..... and in fact, should welcome it......
Have you read it? It does not address puppy mills, and it's provisions aren't even sensible. Fifty one dogs is cruel, but keeping 50 dogs is not? What kind of regulation is that?
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Originally Posted by jifwittle
I will also be voting yes. I agree with you that breeders that are responsible and ethical in their practices should have nothing to worry about.
This kind of legislation affects all of us, it spills over on everyone. Take a long range view at what the real goals are.
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Originally Posted by SW Missouri Dave
Hopefully I am not opening a new can of worms with this question, but why doesn't our state government just pass some puppy mill statutes with some real teeth to them? These guys and gals are surely smart enough to come up with some laws that attack the puppy mill problem without being seen as a threat to legitimate farming. Is there really a lobby of unlicensed puppy mill operators that has a powerful voice in Congress? "Yes Mr Congressman, we represent the unlicensed scumbags of Missouri and feel this new regulation to limit our half starved, never seen the sun, breeding female dogs to a single birth a year, is big government intervention and a threat to the free range chicken farmers - who might have to figure out someday ways to limit their chickens to one egg a year, thus jeopardizing many jobs and endangering our state's food supply." Good grief. Even the Tea Partier's admit there is a place for government - just not so freaking much of it. So while you guys in Jeff City are figuring out new ways to stick more signs on the freaking road every year, how about addressing this problem??
Why does something like this have to be a publicly voted on constitutional amendment? I don't remember having to vote to make rooster fighting a Class D felony or bear wrestling a Class A misdemeanor in Missouri.
Bear wrestling! Now that's really a serious problem around these parts!!
Gotta agree with MOgal on this one. Admirable cause for an issue that needs to be fixed, but a law with a lot of teeth missing.
I read a good deal of the proposed legislation I can see how people are caught up in the emotional response that it is designed to evoke. But blanket legislation like this will not solve the individual problems that exist either in MO or anywhere else. These should be addressed directly. This legislation would make huge inroads into all areas of pet ownership, eventually infringing on our rights to even own a service animal by a blind person. The effort should be put into enforcement of laws on the books, and the passing of specific legislation to address specific problem areas.
Remember, this kind of legislation once put into motion can be broadened administratively to regulate us in ways we haven't even thought of yet but Government has a way of doing that.
Proposition B in MO, if passed, is the beginning of the end of pet ownership
Wayne Pacelle, President of HSUS, says “We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals.”
The HSUS (Humane Society of the US) is a powerful lobby organization that is embarking on its current 100-point agenda. Pet owners, hunters, people with service dogs, cat lovers… take notice. It will create an entirely new, large bureaucracy in Washington DC and begin to restrict your right to animal ownership. As an example of just how far they want to go to aid enforcement of the regulations, this is one point taken from their 100-point agenda:
“Require the U.S. Census Bureau and the Center for Disease Control to include questions about the animals people own when surveying the public.”
The goal is total control of animal enterprise, from farming to sales of pets and pet supplies, and they are moving into the Federal agencies into positions of power. They have the ear of Obama. A questionnaire obtained by the American Sporting Dog Alliance showed that the President aggressively sought HSUS endorsement.
It is important to remember that the HSUS is not affiliated with your local Humane Society shelters. It is a separate animal rights lobby organization, using the Humane Society name, working to pass laws that will result in eventual elimination of domestic animals. Remember the quote, “We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals."
To that end, Prop B is being tested in MO, and if passed by voters on Nov 2 it will go on to be introduced in every state. If you own a pet (dog, cat, bird, reptile, whatever) it will affect you; if you have a service dog, it will affect you; and if you are a hunter it will affect you. If you are a MO resident, this is the point at which to stop this bad bill in its tracks.
A thoughtful reading will show that it is a regulation that has little intellectual integrity but a lot of emotional appeal which is hard to resist. It is cleverly written to target voters’ emotions; however, it requires cool-headed assessment to properly evaluate it.
The American Sporting Dog Alliance is working to unmask the real purpose and the potential long range ramifications of this. The Alliance is a group of owners, breeders and professionals who work with breeds of dogs that are used for hunting or companionship who are concerned that if this Proposition passes pet ownership as we know it will begin to go away.
Little does President Obama realize that if the HSUS already had its way, his family would not have been allowed to have the dog that his daughters wanted so much: a wonderful dog – a child’s dream – carefully selected from a good breeder – a lovely pet that his daughters are able to enjoy today.
I urge you to read the detail and consider carefully and not react emotionally:
HSUS Maps Agenda for the President (http://www.thealliancefortruth.com/hsus-and-obama - broken link)
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HSUS Maps Agenda for the President (http://www.thealliancefortruth.com/hsus-and-obama - broken link)
This is a link to Alliance for Truth, a paid lobbying group. Their only opinions are the opinions of their paying clients.
The American Sporting Dog Association is an industry trade group representing commercial dog breeders. ''Commercial dog breeder'' is the euphemism for puppy mill. Where have you ever seen a commercial breeder, someone whose full-time occupation is raising dogs? Both of these organizations have very skilful and sophisticated web designers who work to give them maximum exposure and minimize opposing websites on search engines.
The puppy mill busines is a lucrative business. But the people in it don't want to cut one penny of profit for humane treatment. They are particularly frightened to have veterinarians seeing their places of business. That's why they're so afraid of this bill. Are you still in doubt? Ask your vet.
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Even the Tea Partier's admit there is a place for government - just not so freaking much of it. So while you guys in Jeff City are figuring out new ways to stick more signs on the freaking road every year, how about addressing this problem?? 
