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Dude..yes!! My biggest problem with MMA, besides all the quick, controversial stoppages and Dana "Don King" White. Best example of that was B.J. Penn and Jens Pulver. Jens basically said on TUF that he hated Penn's. guts. Then after Penn whips his a$$, he tells us how much he loves B.J. and thanks him for the beating, basically. While they are hugging all over each other. Made me want to puke. Or the guys who say they would rather fight their friends. I don't get that. That all being said...I LOVE MMA.....
dude, the guy wasnt even talking about the post-fight love - he's referring to the grappling aspect of MMA. he's one of those people who grew up thinking that wrestling (real wrestling) and grappling are gay. two guys humping each other. yeah, that guy wouldnt last 10 seconds against an amateur wrestler. ****ing idiots.
I have to admit. The first time I saw UFC, I was very interested in it. I'm talking about UFC I, II, and III. This is when Royce Gracie won. It was different and a bit low-keyed. Certainly, not at all in the league of Boxing, but an interesting aversion. Now I'm just sick of it all. It seems like nothing but a bunch of rednecks and convicts swinging at each other like two amateurs only to end up on the ground wrestling. The ambiance of it has a plastic, cheap feel like Roller Derby or WWE. It's too gimmicky for me. I'm not a fan.
I read a headline as to whether this barbaric-looking Kimbo Slice was the next Mike Tyson. Well, let me be honest. Kimbo is nothing but a gimmick, a barbaric, beast-looking character fighting in a sport for grunts and wrestlers. He nor the sport will ever attain the level of class, sophistication, or status that is Boxing. I prefer "The Sweet Science."
so what is your deal? is this just an arguement that you enjoy having? i thought that it was, at the very least, made clear to you in the same thread that you started a few weeks ago that it is a faulty arguement to guage MMA and the UFC on Kimbo Slice. Kimbo Slice was never affiliated with the UFC, all of the MMA fans agreed that Kimbo, along with the Elite XC promotion were a gimmick (boxing promoters trying to get a piece of the MMA action). that was made clear. so, it makes no sense for you to make the same losing arguement now - other than you like having this losing arguement and you think that if you can convince enough lay-people that Kimbo Slice actually represents MMA, that lends you some validity.
you remind me of a politician going after an opponent by taking something said or done, way out of context, but hoping enough people will be uninformed enough to believe it.
2. you come off like an old kurmudgeon who is trying to defend the sport of boxing because you feel somehow threatened by MMA. some MMA fans are also boxing fans. some arent. but the ones who arent dont spend their time thinking about boxing. it seems like you spend a lot of time thinking about MMA. it also is evident that as much time as you spend thinking about MMA, you havent spent any time watching it. that goes for you and anyone else who describes it as boring, or two guys dry humping each other. clearly, you dont have any understanding of what MMA is. so Wrestling, Judo, Brazilian Jiujitsu, and other forms of grappling and martial arts somehow seem boring to you because you have zero understanding of what you are seeing. IMO, a boxing match is relatively boring (especially heavyweights) compared to an MMA match. a lot of time is spent clinching (or as some might put it - hugging each other). the ref breaks up the clench, and two seconds later theyre back in the clench. the cycle is repeated. and look. i'm not being partisan here. boxing is probably my second favorite sport. you may not have realized it, but boxing is very much incorperated into MMA. and i GUARANTEE you that on any UFC, WEC, MMA event, you are going to see way more knockouts than at any boxing event. it's not just chokes and joint locks.
3. as much as you profess to hate MMA, i guarantee you have not been paying any attention to it whatsoever. to describe it the way you have shows that you have contempt for it. to relate it in it's entirety to the rise and fall of Kimbo Slice [again] shows that you have less than the lowest common denominator's understanding of it. to make the exact same losing arguement [again] in more than one thread shows that you, on some level, fear that the sport of MMA is superior to boxing, in which you are emotionally invested, and are desperately seeking corroboration for reassurance.
dude, the guy wasnt even talking about the post-fight love - he's referring to the grappling aspect of MMA. he's one of those people who grew up thinking that wrestling (real wrestling) and grappling are gay. two guys humping each other. yeah, that guy wouldnt last 10 seconds against an amateur wrestler. ****ing idiots.
Oh, my mistake. He's one of those "wrestling is gay" guys, huh? Whatever, most fights go to the ground. I'd rather be gay, than beat up.
i can watch MMA for 10 minutes, but when they start hugging each other like f*ggots i just change the channel.
no biggie.
They don´t hug each other. They do ground and pound and try to do submissions. I have seen a lot of hugging in boxing. In boxing when they are tired they hold each other and start hugging.
so what is your deal? is this just an arguement that you enjoy having? i thought that it was, at the very least, made clear to you in the same thread that you started a few weeks ago that it is a faulty arguement to guage MMA and the UFC on Kimbo Slice. Kimbo Slice was never affiliated with the UFC, all of the MMA fans agreed that Kimbo, along with the Elite XC promotion were a gimmick (boxing promoters trying to get a piece of the MMA action). that was made clear. so, it makes no sense for you to make the same losing arguement now - other than you like having this losing arguement and you think that if you can convince enough lay-people that Kimbo Slice actually represents MMA, that lends you some validity.
you remind me of a politician going after an opponent by taking something said or done, way out of context, but hoping enough people will be uninformed enough to believe it.
2. you come off like an old kurmudgeon who is trying to defend the sport of boxing because you feel somehow threatened by MMA. some MMA fans are also boxing fans. some arent. but the ones who arent dont spend their time thinking about boxing. it seems like you spend a lot of time thinking about MMA. it also is evident that as much time as you spend thinking about MMA, you havent spent any time watching it. that goes for you and anyone else who describes it as boring, or two guys dry humping each other. clearly, you dont have any understanding of what MMA is. so Wrestling, Judo, Brazilian Jiujitsu, and other forms of grappling and martial arts somehow seem boring to you because you have zero understanding of what you are seeing. IMO, a boxing match is relatively boring (especially heavyweights) compared to an MMA match. a lot of time is spent clinching (or as some might put it - hugging each other). the ref breaks up the clench, and two seconds later theyre back in the clench. the cycle is repeated. and look. i'm not being partisan here. boxing is probably my second favorite sport. you may not have realized it, but boxing is very much incorperated into MMA. and i GUARANTEE you that on any UFC, WEC, MMA event, you are going to see way more knockouts than at any boxing event. it's not just chokes and joint locks.
3. as much as you profess to hate MMA, i guarantee you have not been paying any attention to it whatsoever. to describe it the way you have shows that you have contempt for it. to relate it in it's entirety to the rise and fall of Kimbo Slice [again] shows that you have less than the lowest common denominator's understanding of it. to make the exact same losing arguement [again] in more than one thread shows that you, on some level, fear that the sport of MMA is superior to boxing, in which you are emotionally invested, and are desperately seeking corroboration for reassurance.
dude, relax.
Yeah Kombo was overrated. He was like famous from his street fighting videos. He got knocked out by a smaller guy in his third(I think) fight in MMA.
Yup. MMA is not just about submissions. Guys gets knocked out by a knee, kick, punch or gets TKO from ground and pound or lose because they tapout.
If they are laying down and not doing much the ref break and makes them stand up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a hardcore boxing fan. I enjoy the hand-to-hand aspect of the sport and appreciate its rich and storied history. You guarantee that I'll see more knockouts at an MMA event? WHO THE HELL CARES? MMA is for grunts. I don't care for MMA for the reasons I've made clear.
The Sweet Science is where my preference is and will always be.
Get over it.
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