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Old 04-11-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I beg to differ. A French Canadian can pick out instantly when an American speaks French to them having learned International French in the USA in high school or college. I will grant that some is accent, but a lot of it is the different words and syntax. International French never teaches you to say 'Bon Matin' in the morning as the Quebecois do.
I never it said it was all about accent, and agree there are some different words and syntax.

And BTW, International English never teaches you to say ''y'all'' either...
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the difference is greatly exaggerated its not patois. yes a few words and expressions are different but not enough to cause a train wreck. quebec people understand parisian french.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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to Huckleberry- then why are Quebec movies sub-titled for the French?
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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to Huckleberry- then why are Quebec movies sub-titled for the French?
Some are and some aren't. Les Invasions Barbares (The Barbarian Invasions), which won an Oscar for best foreign film, was not subtitled for "international" French audiences, and the Québécois characters in it certainly weren't pretending to speak like Frenchmen. They spoke with totally normal Québécois accents for the social class that they were in.

As said before, it all comes down to familiarity rather than similarity.

TV prime time and movie theatres in France are not filled with Québécois products like they are with American stuff in the UK.

American English and especially slang would be no more intuitive and easy to understand for a Briton than Québécois for a Frenchman if the average Briton hadn't been exposed to US speech a million times in his lifetime.

Another interesting point is that when written, Quebec French is actually a lot closer to France French than US and UK English are to each other. The two varieties of French are basically identical in terms of spelling and grammar. Whereas especially in spelling there are significant UK-US differences.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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You will have no more difficulty understanding or being understood than you would had you gone to Haiti or the Michelon Islands.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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You will have no more difficulty understanding or being understood than you would had you gone to Haiti or the Michelon Islands.
This is true of St-Pierre-et-Miquelon which is part of France and where people speak quite similarly to people in metropolitan (European) France.

But it is not at all true of Haiti, where only a minority of the population speaks French. The main language of Haiti is Haitian Creole, spoken by everyone. Although it has some French words in it, it is considered its own language by linguists and is much more different from standard European French than Quebec/Canadian French is.

It is much much more difficult for an "international" French speaker to communicate with the average Haitian than with the average Québécois.

Quebec French:
Grève étudiante: l'Université de Montréal obtient une injonction | Pascale Breton | Éducation

Haitian Creole:
Bl antre
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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so- here is a question to the Canadians- why in the world do they teach International French to students in Canada and not Canadian French? Do we teach British English to students in the US? I think not
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Mexico City (Montreal soon!)
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so- here is a question to the Canadians- why in the world do they teach International French to students in Canada and not Canadian French? Do we teach British English to students in the US? I think not
I also found this absolutely ridiculous and I like to categorize myself as a victim from this dumb decision. I started learning French in Ontario and after a year I thought I was pretty damn good. I moved to Montreal only to find out that I couldn't understand anything.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Mississippi Delta!
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Who's heard of "Joual"?

Joual - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

God bless,

CKB
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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Who's heard of "Joual"?

Joual - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

God bless,

CKB

Moé
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