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It is irrelevent. Joining the ACC wouldn't change academics. It is about playing similar schools. The conferences don't have any effects on the actual academics.
true, but in FBS the ACC is. But being associated with higher end schools would help WVU out in academics. The big 12 isn't bad, but in reality we couldn't fit in the ACC anyways.
That depends on what you see as the mission of a university, apparently. From reading this thread, apparently the point is to bleed as much money as possible from young people while providing them with a place to hang out and party their late teens and early twenties away.
We can quibble about how the rankings were derived and whether or not WVU is really #1 or #10 or whatever, but the easily observable reality (at least to anyone with functioning eyes and ears) is that WVU has developed this reputation for a reason, as is obvious to anyone who has spent time on college campuses that don't have that sort of reputation. Yes, students party everywhere. But you know what? I don't have random drunk people peeing on my door every night since I left Morgantown. I don't have to try to avoid a sea of broken beer bottles when biking around town anymore. My neighbors don't keep me up with loud parties. The liquor stores aren't packed with people buying plastic jugs of vodka. The local fire department doesn't have to go around dousing couches. Cars aren't being burned in the streets.
So is this an agreement? because that is how I'm reading it.
true, but in FBS the ACC is. But being associated with higher end schools would help WVU out in academics. The big 12 isn't bad, but in reality we couldn't fit in the ACC anyways.
It wouldn't helpwvw wvu academically. You are right though wvu would not fit in. The acc doesn't give wvu enough money or good football. Likewise wvu doesn't really give the ACC enough market since they already have a presence in most of wvu:s market, although wvu would seriously improve acc football.
You all are missing the point. Being labeled as top party school nationally (reguardless of its source) is not a positive thing. .
No one's missing any point, ok? The reality is that this "survey" isn't taken seriously (nor is it proposed as serious research) by anyone. Ever. It's like claiming the most "likes" on a FB page, or boasting @ the number of twitter followers. But hey, if that's got you in a twist for some bizzare reason...
Oh, and Jason - I can find all of that in more college towns than I can readily recall, and you don't live in a college town anymore.... so?
So you are saying being a party school helps college students get jobs? If that is the case (which it isn't) then that is a flaw in our job system.
Don't stick up for poor behavior, under age drinking, and street riots. It is 100% negative, and thats a fact!
WVU is not a "party school". It is a great academic institution that also offers outstanding social options, just like Iowa, Wisconsin, and many of the other schools that made the list. Just because there isn't much to do in Glenville does not mean it is a bad idea to have lots of options in Morgantown. Nobody is forced to party. Most people get their school work done, then participate in social activities.
CC, Seriously? No one's "sticking up for poor behavior, etc."
The reality is that this "ranking" is PR/Marketing for the PR at best - there's no baseline measurement, no index, nothing more than the most general queries. Given that reality, it's not a surprise that any initial members of such a list would tend to remain on said list - this is the very definition of "self perpetuating". I do have to chuckle @ comments that what's seen in Morgantown isn't seen on other campuses - in my travels I can say with great confidence that it takes a good deal of self delusion to even entertain such a statement.
I think Chris said at one point he went to Glenville. I will agree with him that there aren't likely many social opportunities there. But, he really doesn't know what happens here and it is mostly studying. That's why WVU has had 25 Rhodes Scholars, good enough for #7 in the nation among public universities. And, in spite of not having the chance to party much in Glenville, I am not aware of them having even one.
I'm not criticizing Glenville... I had a very nice old girlfriend who graduated from there and she learned to socialize in spite of the lack of opportunity in college.
It wouldn't helpwvw wvu academically. You are right though wvu would not fit in. The acc doesn't give wvu enough money or good football. Likewise wvu doesn't really give the ACC enough market since they already have a presence in most of wvu:s market, although wvu would seriously improve acc football.
Our academics are just fine. That crap is bogus. Our graduates make more money than those of several
ACC schools. And, our market is as good as several of theirs too since it overlaps into PA, MD, and VA. The only way we don't "fit" into the ACC is our football is better than theirs, and we are already in a much better league.
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Oh, and Jason - I can find all of that in more college towns than I can readily recall, and you don't live in a college town anymore.... so?
You can find it, sure. You won't find it at the same frequency and severity as you will in college towns that have the sort of reputation that WVU/Morgantown has earned.
And your latter statement is utterly false. Perhaps try Wikipedia?
I think Chris said at one point he went to Glenville. I will agree with him that there aren't likely many social opportunities there. But, he really doesn't know what happens here and it is mostly studying. That's why WVU has had 25 Rhodes Scholars, good enough for #7 in the nation among public universities. And, in spite of not having the chance to party much in Glenville, I am not aware of them having even one.
I'm not criticizing Glenville... I had a very nice old girlfriend who graduated from there and she learned to socialize in spite of the lack of opportunity in college.
never went to Glenville, so don't know why that is part of this
Still, WVU rating/ranking/poll numbers/ect... whatever it is at being the top party school is a negative. You all can argue all you want that there is less partying than seems, or that everybody else is doing it, but in the mist of things it doesn't really matter. If Buffalo, NY was rated most boring city in the US, but it wasn't true, that would still be a bad thing. Same in this case, because it might not be true but its is still there and the whole country looks at that ranking and laughs.
You can find it, sure. You won't find it at the same frequency and severity as you will in college towns that have the sort of reputation that WVU/Morgantown has earned.
And your latter statement is utterly false. Perhaps try Wikipedia?
??? What "latter statement"? And @ far as college towns, I will only say you need to visit a few more, if you dare...
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Our academics are just fine. That crap is bogus. Our graduates make more money than those of several
ACC schools. And, our market is as good as several of theirs too since it overlaps into PA, MD, and VA. The only way we don't "fit" into the ACC is our football is better than theirs, and we are already in a much better league.
Truth. Does anyone seriously believe the ACC is some sort of pinnacle in Athletic conferences and is willing to assert so w/a straight face?
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