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Old 12-06-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Based on the updated estimate he gave me with the corrected FHA Funding Fee it seems he will make just over $1,000 ($1,010.00 by my count)

this seems reasonable considering the Realtor will make $13,293..... but that's the sellers concern
The lender is making considerably more than $1000 on your loan. He would not be able to pay bills if lenders made so little per file. You have no idea what is getting paid on the backend.

And stop calling it a funding fee. USDA financing has a funding fee. VA financing has a funding fee. FHA financing does not have a funding fee.
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Old 12-06-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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The lender is making considerably more than $1000 on your loan. He would not be able to pay bills if lenders made so little per file. You have no idea what is getting paid on the backend.

And stop calling it a funding fee. USDA financing has a funding fee. VA financing has a funding fee. FHA financing does not have a funding fee.
I dont care what he makes on the back-end as its not from me, I was simply stating that I appear to be paying him just over $1,000 for his services and was wondering if this is about average low/high etc

ok ok I'll call it "Upfront MIP" if that makes you feel better
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Old 12-06-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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I dont care what he makes on the back-end as its not from me, I was simply stating that I appear to be paying him just over $1,000 for his services and was wondering if this is about average low/high etc

ok ok I'll call it "Upfront MIP" if that makes you feel better
Where are you getting the $1000 fee from? Banks make loans on the interest or on selling your loan.
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Old 12-06-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Where are you getting the $1000 fee from? Banks make loans on the interest or on selling your loan.
He's probably talking about the underwriting fee, processing fee, etc... those lender fees. He thinks the LO actually keeps that money.
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Old 12-06-2016, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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He's probably talking about the underwriting fee, processing fee, etc... those lender fees. He thinks the LO actually keeps that money.
correct, the processing fee, underwriting fee etc as seen on the estimate i posted in post # 3 if you read back a bit

and yes i actually think the LO keeps that money since he told me so
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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correct, the processing fee, underwriting fee etc as seen on the estimate i posted in post # 3 if you read back a bit

and yes i actually think the LO keeps that money since he told me so
He probably makes a commission for selling you the loan but that cost is not really revealed or payed by you directly on your estimate.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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correct, the processing fee, underwriting fee etc as seen on the estimate i posted in post # 3 if you read back a bit

and yes i actually think the LO keeps that money since he told me so
You have yet to state anything that is remotely accurate.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Lending in all 50 states
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It's not a funding fee, it's MIP. It's paid at closing. You don't finance it unless you are adding the closing costs into the loan. You also have to pay MIP monthly about $130 a month in your case for the life of the loan. You should have been told, this is added to your mortgage payment.
Wrong, the Upfront MIP is added to the loan amount regardless unless the buyer opts to pay it with cash at closing.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Lending in all 50 states
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Based on the updated estimate he gave me with the corrected FHA Funding Fee it seems he will make just over $1,000 ($1,010.00 by my count)

this seems reasonable considering the Realtor will make $13,293..... but that's the sellers concern

So what happened to the $2,500 FHA Funding Fee from your original post?
Do you have an estimate from him with that amount?

The reason I'm asking is because I'm curious to know if he initially tried to "hide" some junk fees by telling you it was the FHA Upfront MIP.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:19 AM
 
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correct, the processing fee, underwriting fee etc as seen on the estimate i posted in post # 3 if you read back a bit

and yes i actually think the LO keeps that money since he told me so
Loan Originator's don't keep processing or underwriting fee. Those go directly to those departments or persons. He meant "we", not "I".
Since I saw no origination or loan discount fee, they are getting paid based as a direct lender on the loan amount.
However, it is sad, they don't know a funding fee from an Upfront MIP ro the true calculation.
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