FZ6R vs cbr650F vs ninja650 which has the best..... (ride, bike)
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so one criteria I am looking for...something with more power than my cb500x. being in Colorado, the power plummets a lot.
-reliability with minimal issues being a daily rider
-which bike is better 0 - 60mph
-rolling 20mph to 80mph
-and holding 80 - 90mph w/o stressing engine.
being in colorado, the flow of traffic is usually 80 - 90mph. I also like staying in the left lane since I feel the safest, so I need a burst of speed when I need to escape something or go to my exit.
My cb500x is revving pretty high at 80MPH and the power just is not enough for highway speeds in colorado.
It is 100% personal preference. The differences you're trying to find are Fractions of a percent, unnoticeable outside of that last decimal point of the bikes ability.
While I don't begrudge people for Wants, I actually have direct personal experience riding in CO, WY, MT, UT and AZ at elevation. The Ninja 250, with its whopping 30hp, was enough for me, at 6'4" and ranging between 280 and 230lbs, to Never feel unsafe or think I needed more. Maybe riding up Mt Evans or Pikes Peak, but never on the roads where I'd go play a little. If you're relying on power to keep you out of trouble, you're going the wrong direction... rider awareness is easily the #1 thing for avoiding trouble, and Brakes are the best tool for most emergencies, with handling not far behind. I'm not sure I've ever been in a situation, through decades of riding and hundreds of thousands of miles covered, where more power was the answer (on the street at least, helps a good bit off-road to get you out of trouble as you increase the gyroscopic forces with the wheels). And don't worry about "stressing" the engine. I put nearly 60k miles on Ninja 250's where they essentially lived within a couple thousand RPM of redline. There's nothing harmful about doing that, does no damage, no additional wear (actually, it might do Less wear as the oil is moved more), won't noticeably shorten engine life.... basically it's an irrational thing to fear/avoid. Please understand I say this from the perspective of having started down the MC Mechanic career path back in 1999 and focusing on sports bikes and roadracing.
Anyway, given that you Want something different, there are already shoot-outs with these 3 bikes published:
well I live in CO, so my cb500x is already topping at 80 - 90 MPH. most highways and roads flow is about 80 MPH. I daily every day, so just would be nice to have the power when I need it.
i do stop a lot at scenic places and often times flow of traffic is 60 - 70MPH sometimes 80. so I need to do a quick burst of speed to catch up if I stop at some place along the road.
if you been in CO, you prob see what flow of traffic is on i25 haha. 80 - 90mph which my CB500x can do, but takes a bit to get up to that speed range. usually 75+
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anyhow, seems I keep coming across that. these 3 bikes, I wont notice much of a difference. few people said CBR650f might be a bit faster. So far I am pointing to the ninja650
going to do a double post here. So I think the versys 650 might have the power delivery I am looking for. I am highly looking at the versys 650; I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this bike?
hows the stopping power?
hows the shifting? smooth or so?
how does the power deliver compare to the ninja650?
and of course the reliability?
When in doubt, go with the Honda. I've always been a Yamaha guy, but you just can't beat the quality of the Big H. They're so good, they are almost boring, appliance-like.
When in doubt, go with the Honda. I've always been a Yamaha guy, but you just can't beat the quality of the Big H. They're so good, they are almost boring, appliance-like.
ha ha yeah!! Ive been looking at the honda since I do want something super reliable. honestly so hard to decide.
I was looking at the versys 650....well being a touring bike, im guessing it should hit 100k miles no issue. I think the versys has the power I am looking for as well..when I need to sprint onto the highway from a stopped scenic place or something.
Not sure so hard to decide!
still torn between
ninja650
versys650
cbr650f
and the 6r yamaha
just wish I can test ride them, but most dealers wont.
Look on the used market if you want to test-ride without much hassle. Or jump onto either a local riding forum, or a forum specific for each of the different bikes, and see if you can find a member who'll let you ride theirs. I've had several "loaner" bikes over the years, and the only option up there that hasn't been out for quite awhile is the Honda. Yes, there will be Slight differences between the older models and something new, but nothing substantial.
If you're going though a dealer, are you breaking financial rule #1? Never finance a toy. Now could be a good time to get out from underneath a monthly payment. I can honestly say that I've had more fun on $1000 motorcycles than on $10,000+ motorcycles. The big scary thing for most people is the fear of the unknown when mechanics, this is easily circumvented by finding a Good independent mechanic (there are bad ones, there are also no good dealer mechanics as they all flee ASAP) and pay them to do a pre-purchase inspection. I put over 100k miles on a bike bought with a bad engine, and I put an unknown salvage engine into with the only real issue being typical Honda, the Reg/Rec cooked itself to death... 3 times.
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I use to ride a FZ6R and Ninja 650 ( the 2015 model). I no longer have either. Out of the two the FZ6R is a bit slower on the butt dyno but had about the smoothest and best sounding stock exhaust imho. Yamaha nailed it. However the FZ6r was just too dang heavy and top heavy for my taste so I sold it. If Yamaha ever redesigns the FZ6R I would seriously consider it again. I think its needs to drop to about 420pds max.
I also agree with the statement about Honda products. I have had a CBR250r, CBR500r and now a Honda Forza which is a 278cc scooter. All bikes can be considered a bit dull has no bad points or extreme great points. That said. I love Honda products and consider them all great rides.
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