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Old 01-29-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Funny you should start this thread, just read this:

Why Phil Ochs is the obscure ’60s folk singer America needs in 2017

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.9fa34df6902c
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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A lament for the condition of the Vietnam veteran, many people vapidly thought this was nothing more than jingoistic flag-waving because apparently listening to anything other than the chorus is a wee bit complicated for some.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Hpo39FivM
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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one of the great myths in rock n roll is the premise that Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd had some sort of feud playing out in these songs, in truth, there was a lot of mutual admiration between them.

Mr. Young and Mr. Van Zant have a conversation...







Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ol' Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow


from wiki -- In his 2012 autobiography Waging Heavy Peace, Young commented on his role in the song's creation, writing "My own song 'Alabama' richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don't like my words when I listen to it. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, and too easy to misconstrue"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_Alabama

The "feud myth" was further fueled with the Drive-By Truckers 2002 album "Southern Rock Opera" (one of the only truly genuine masterpiece albums released in the early 21st century) song "Ronnie and Neil":

Neil Young News: Ronnie and Neil: Laying to Rest the "Feud Myth" Once and for All
  • And out in California, a rock star from Canada writes a couple of great songs
    about the bad s**t that went down
    "Southern Man" and "Alabama" certainly told some truth
    But there were a lot of good folks down here and Neil Young wasn't around

    Now Ronnie and Neil became good friends
    their feud was just in song
    Skynyrd was a bunch of Neil Young fans and Neil he loved that song

    So He wrote "Powderfinger" for Skynyrd to record
    But Ronnie ended up singing "Sweet Home Alabama" to the lord





^from...
"I grew up in north Alabama back in the 1970s when dinosaurs still roamed the earth. I'm speaking, of course, of the three great Alabama icons: George Wallace, Bear Bryant, and Ronnie Van Zant. Now, Ronnie Van Zant wasn't from Alabama, he was from Florida, he was a huge Neil Young fan but in the tradition of Merle Haggard writing Okie From Muskogee to tell his dad's point of view on the hippies in Vietnam, Ronnie felt that the other side of the story should be told. Neil Young always claimed that Sweet Home Alabama was one of his favorite songs and legend has it that he was an honorary pallbearer at Ronnie's funeral, such as the duality of the southern thing."
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:03 AM
 
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Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps

Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAwaNWGLM0c
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Houston, texas
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrSYgirAhc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cejjqC1oyQM
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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A lament for the condition of the Vietnam veteran, many people vapidly thought this was nothing more than jingoistic flag-waving because apparently listening to anything other than the chorus is a wee bit complicated for some.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Hpo39FivM
There are two other songs I always group with "Born in the USA" that also can be considered to have jingoistic titles but are actually critiques of jingoism and shallow-minded thinking:

Neil Young - "Rockin' in the Free World" (1989)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJzM7x2Cg4

Hüsker Dü - "In a Free Land" (1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7RH8Hkf1PA
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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How could I have forgotten the master of "Political and Social Commentary Music"?

From the "Talking Book" album...

STEVIE WONDER - Big Brother (Lyrics)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3cAsASTTdw

And from the "Innervisions" album...

Stevie Wonder - Visions - with lyrics


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwtfC4hLWnY

Living for the city - Stevie Wonder Lyrics


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Lh3MTfU5Q

Stevie Wonder - Higher Ground (lyrics)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwq5ODbywDk
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Old 02-04-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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More from Stevie Wonder. From the "Fulfillingness' First Finale" album...

Stevie Wonder - Heaven is 10 zillion light years away (lyrics)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BglAFq6nQGw

Stevie Wonder-You haven't done nothin' Lyrics


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxrzT8WNxDc

Stevie Wonder They Won't Go When I Go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or6Kgo3UsrU
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Old 02-04-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Phil Ochs committed suicide by hanging. He was an alcoholic and he was crazy. He took on another identity. His brother tried to commit him.

He had a beautiful voice though and he wasn't bad looking. I had a few of his albums. Pleasures of the Harbor was my favorite. I also have a book about him called, Death of a Rebel.
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