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Old 03-11-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The CDC is advising people to monitor information from public health officials regularly and to make sensible changes in their behavior so as to protect both themselves and others in their communities, and thereby head off a major epidemic here. These are very serious people and they are *not* sensationalizing things.

So far, in terms of what we know, the prevalence is still quite low in the US. A little over 800 cases and 28 deaths in the US. But this is a developing situation, i.e. it's going to get worse before it gets better. It's far better to get out in front of this than to be behind the curve, because the disease is in some ways like a wildfire - once it gets to be a certain size, you'll lose the ability to control it. To the extent that we can limit its ultimate propagation, or even just slow down the propagation to occur over the course of a year instead of a month, we'll also limit the mortality.
common sense, I like that far better than rabid paranoia
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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common sense, I like that far better than rabid paranoia
Thanks, here is a diagram that may help to explain more clearly than I could with words. We don't have a vaccine for Covid-19, so we can't confer immunity to people, which implies that actually stopping propagation will be difficult to impossible.

By taking mitigation measures, like cancelling large public gatherings, social distancing, hand-washing, etc, we can shift the disease propagation behavior from something like the first, red curve (rapid progression), to the second, gray curve (slow progression).

The second process has two big advantages:
- The peak occurs later in time, giving officials more time to plan, organize, make preparations and build capacity
- The peak occurs with fewer cases per day, allowing those who need help from a hospital, like the elderly, people with diabetes, COPD, heart failure, etc,to be handled within the finite capacity of our healthcare system to absorb them, thereby greatly reducing mortality


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Old 03-11-2020, 09:59 PM
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Thanks, here is a diagram that may help to explain more clearly than I could with words. We don't have a vaccine for Covid-19, so we can't confer immunity to people, which implies that actually stopping propagation will be difficult to impossible.

By taking mitigation measures, like cancelling large public gatherings, social distancing, hand-washing, etc, we can shift the disease propagation behavior from something like the first, red curve (rapid progression), to the second, gray curve (slow progression).

The second process has two big advantages:
- The peak occurs later in time, giving officials more time to plan, organize, make preparations and build capacity
- The peak occurs with fewer cases per day, allowing those who need help from a hospital, like the elderly, people with diabetes, COPD, heart failure, etc,to be handled within the finite capacity of our healthcare system to absorb them, thereby greatly reducing mortality

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/211714...e-cancellation
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Old 03-12-2020, 12:10 PM
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Case #6 "Officials said the patient is an adult man from Rockingham County who traveled to multiple countries in Europe. He self-isolated when he returned to New Hampshire and called a doctor after developing symptoms.Other people in the man's house have self-quarantined, officials said."
https://www.wmur.com/article/6th-per...id-19/31437469
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Old 03-12-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The more they saturate the news with this the more I see the way we are being played by the media. What are we, three weeks in? I have yet to come into direct or indirect contact with anyone who has anything remotely like this virus. Yet they have folks already closing up sporting events, schools, churches.. sigh.

I am guessing if and when martial law comes, everyone is gonna be a good little sheep right? Word of advice, have your papers in order.
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Old 03-13-2020, 04:22 AM
 
Location: New England
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The more they saturate the news with this the more I see the way we are being played by the media. What are we, three weeks in? I have yet to come into direct or indirect contact with anyone who has anything remotely like this virus. Yet they have folks already closing up sporting events, schools, churches.. sigh.

I am guessing if and when martial law comes, everyone is gonna be a good little sheep right? Word of advice, have your papers in order.
I found this site https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ it has all the latest information on the virus plus
any other statistic you might want there's a whole section health. I talked to several random people in my town, every single person thought it the world was blowing this out of proportion. Time will tell who's right or wrong.
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Old 03-13-2020, 04:22 AM
 
Location: WMU D1, NH
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have your papers in order.

Judging from the idiocy on social media, folks are struggling to get their toilet paper in order.
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Old 03-13-2020, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Judging from the idiocy on social media, folks are struggling to get their toilet paper in order.
I can get some high grade 4 ply for two hundred a roll
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Old 03-13-2020, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Aishalton, GY
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I found this site https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ it has all the latest information on the virus plus
any other statistic you might want there's a whole section health. I talked to several random people in my town, every single person thought it the world was blowing this out of proportion. Time will tell who's right or wrong.

China stopped reporting their numbers last week - so much for clarity. Since it started there = is it really a naturally occuring disease or lab created that got loose?


The fear mongers have won.
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Old 03-13-2020, 08:29 AM
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China stopped reporting their numbers last week - so much for clarity. Since it started there = is it really a naturally occuring disease or lab created that got loose?


The fear mongers have won.

Research done by multiple sources shows that this is not a lab-created disease. Like many other emerging diseases, it originated in bats and was transmitted to some as-yet unidentified animal host which ended up in China's open meat markets. So if you want to blame somebody, blame the bats or the Chinese agricultural officials who permit markets like that, but not the Chinese labs.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...cle_references
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