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Old 02-05-2011, 06:54 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Mapping the pipeline: Where Spectra proposes to run controversial natural gas line | NJ.com

Sigh , why isn't Christie and the 2 dumb senators blocking this dangerous project.....this doesn't even benefit NJ ,once again only NYC ie Manhattan. If they want Gas so bad , they should build it through Brooklyn....
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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A good question, Nexis. Gov. Christie is completely opposed to any kind of regulations for businesses. His take is that a business should be allowed to do anything that they want to, and the "free market" will decide whether or not it was the right choice.

Your two Senators, however, are trying their best to help Jerseyans, but the bill that they have introduced may just die in committee:
New Jersey's two senators introduce new pipeline safety legislation that would boost feds' power to enforce rules - NJ.com

This is a pretty good example of why the "no business regulations" folks are just plain wrong.
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:28 AM
 
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Gas lines, electrical lines, nuclear power plants, cell towers, offshore oil wells, Alaskan oil wells, etc. All examples of things we need to develop to compete with the rest of the world and grow our economy. And all things that need to be allowed reasonably freely without regard to local parochial interests. NIMBY has already made us a second rate country. We must not allow overregulation to push us even further backwards.

Better to have less regulation, more profits, more development, more money, more success. A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Gas lines, electrical lines, nuclear power plants, cell towers, offshore oil wells, Alaskan oil wells, etc. All examples of things we need to develop to compete with the rest of the world and grow our economy. And all things that need to be allowed reasonably freely without regard to local parochial interests. NIMBY has already made us a second rate country. We must not allow overregulation to push us even further backwards.

Better to have less regulation, more profits, more development, more money, more success. A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!
I agree with your statements , but NJ gets nothing out of this if we got something out of it....i'm sure there would less opposition to it. The History of this company is also troubling....it has a bad history in NJ with with explosions.... Drilling for Oil offshore wouldn't work up here we need to develop alt fuels..... Nuclear Power stations should be placed in Rural areas... The World is going Green and Smart , the US is going dirty and stuck in the 1990s
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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Mapping the pipeline: Where Spectra proposes to run controversial natural gas line | NJ.com

Sigh , why isn't Christie and the 2 dumb senators blocking this dangerous project.....this doesn't even benefit NJ ,once again only NYC ie Manhattan. If they want Gas so bad , they should build it through Brooklyn....
If you really want to be upset...watch the movie Gasland:

Gasland: A film by Josh Fox
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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Gas lines, electrical lines, nuclear power plants, cell towers, offshore oil wells, Alaskan oil wells, etc. All examples of things we need to develop to compete with the rest of the world and grow our economy. And all things that need to be allowed reasonably freely without regard to local parochial interests. NIMBY has already made us a second rate country. We must not allow overregulation to push us even further backwards.

Better to have less regulation, more profits, more development, more money, more success. A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!
Absolutely! Let's not inspect meatpacking plants for e coli, or test drinking water or inspect high rise buildings for safety. So what if a couple of your brats die eating a hamburger, that's the price of unregulated capitalism. After all, corporations would NEVER EVER cut corners to make extra profit, right?
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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... A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!
Uh huh ............. a few accidents ............... we can deal with those.

Sorry, my friend but that's not OK when I consider my family's health and safety.

Sadly, your statement tells me that you are willing to sacrifice a few family members on the altar of fewer regulations. I am not willing to do that, and I really think that most folks on these boards would put the health and safety of their families ahead of a political agenda.

Just one man's opinion, of course.
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Uh huh ............. a few accidents ............... we can deal with those.

Sorry, my friend but that's not OK when I consider my family's health and safety.

Sadly, your statement tells me that you are willing to sacrifice a few family members on the altar of fewer regulations. I am not willing to do that, and I really think that most folks on these boards would put the health and safety of their families ahead of a political agenda.

Just one man's opinion, of course.
There are no guarantees, there is no absolute safety, there is no way to totally insulate from risk. The key is a balance. But make no mistake. We must have some risk. We must allow some deaths. We must allow some pollution. There is no choice. It has to be reasonable, but life will never be risk free or trouble free.
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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... We must allow some deaths ...
You have stated your position eloquently, and so much better than I could have, if I had tried to read your mind.

Thank you for making your position crystal clear.
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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You have stated your position eloquently, and so much better than I could have, if I had tried to read your mind.

Thank you for making your position crystal clear.
No problem, I find that always works best.
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