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Tyler Clementi's mother rejected him when he came out.
Tyler Clementi was racist against Ravi before he even met him. While Ravi made fun of Clementi being gay, Clementi made fun of his roommate’s Indian heritage. "His (family) is sooo indian/ first gen americanish . . . just like . . . first son off to college . . . his rents defs owna dunkin (donuts)," Clementi wrote in an Aug. 28 chat with a friend the day he moved into the dorm. link
The idea that hateful words, or hate expressed in any form, should be unlawful is tragic. But putting that aside, this Clementi character was himself hateful and Ravi is being railroaded because the parents cannot face up to their own culpability.
Not that it matters but I am proud to have sat on a jury and did not try to get out of it. I am not a moron, an unemployed degenerate or a government employee.
I find it disgusting when people (clearly like you) try to lie and weasel their way out of 1 of their only civic duties.
i didnt lie. i said i have to work for a living and they excused me. i see you take pride in pretty meaningless things. guess you must be pretty proud of yourself.
this is absolutely disgusting. this is what happens when you source your jurors from the lowest levels of society. we need professional jurors, not morons who cant get out of service, unemployed degenerates and government employees. the most decent set of jurors are retired people but the smartest of those probably get out of it usually.
in other words, we need jurors who meet your criteria and agree with you.
Invasion of privacy? Yes, guilty 100%. Bias intimidation, i.e., hate crime? No, I'm very uncomfortable with that. You are determining someone's fate in a court of law based on the reaction of the person who was spied on. What if he didn't kill himself? What if he just laughed and said "whatever"? Would Ravi be tried and found guilty of the same crime? No. It's how Clementi reacted that determined the verdict. Very slippery slope here and a very dangerous precedent.
The truth is, we have no idea why this kid jumped off the bridge. Maybe it was for something entirely unrelated to this! Maybe his boyfriend broke up with him. But even if it was completely because of being spied on, you still can't put the blame on someone else for that.
If I give someone a dirty look at Wawa and they get in their car and intentionally drive into a tree, is that bias intimidation?
Jumping off the GW bridge is, I'm assuming, a very difficult thing to do. You have to have deep rooted issues to do something like this. One bad experience won't prompt you to do something so extreme.
I agree completely.
This guy Ravi is essentially having his life ruined because of someone else's decision to kill themselves.
in other words, we need jurors who meet your criteria and agree with you.
With any number selection, your always going to have a bell curve of people who are highly intelligent, morons, strong leaders, and idiots. Thats why OJ got off.
There was no invasion of privacy because there is no privacy between two roommates who share the same room together. Everything else is "political correctness" being forced on people who just are looking for a decent normal lifestyle.
This verdict changes the boundaries of a free USA to exclude the Peoples Republic of New Jersey. They should update all the signs when entering NJ:
All thoughts, opinions and biases are prohibited and subject to prosecution. Surrender all thoughts at border.
A very unjust and wrong verdict, proving no one has any freedom to have private thoughts nor opinions about anyone. Freedom is dead in NJ. The thought police have struck.
He was not convicted of having private or politically incorrect thoughts. He was convicted of a hate crime (I don't know enough about the definition of hate crime to weight in on this) and video-taping his roommate without his consent, among other things.
IMO the roommate probably had issues beyond the videotape to kill himself, but he's dead so there's no way to ascertain this. I mean look at all the sex tapes of celebrities that get viewed 1 million times and no one has killed themselves over that yet.
Still, it was a horrible, mean-spirited awful thing to do. I agree with the poster who said the guy was a fool for not taking the plea deal. Wonder how much time he'll actually spend in the slammer.
I agree with most of you. Definitely invasion of privacy. But I am not convinced he wouldn't have done this if his roommate was with a female. Would that be a hate crime?
Honestly though I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. The whole thing could have easily been avoided in the first place by not setting up and spying in the first place.
I think it was just to make an example and will be dropped in appeals court. But the news will only report the original case.
i didnt lie. i said i have to work for a living and they excused me. i see you take pride in pretty meaningless things. guess you must be pretty proud of yourself.
The third branch of government and centuries-old jury system is petty and meaningless?
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