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Old 05-21-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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for all house hunters looking at this survey, always remember - living in a 'rich' town does not make you rich.

+1.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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The rest of the country outside of northern NJ and Westchester NY would like to call BS on that argument. Short Hills to them looks exactly the way Alpine looks to you.
Alpine and Short Hills are periods at the end of the sentence compared to Irvine, CA...with more than 200,000 people but a median household income of $92k, and the even more monstrous San Jose metro area (Silicon Valley area in California), where almost 2 MILLION people have a median household income of around $90k
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Alpine and Short Hills are periods at the end of the sentence compared to Irvine, CA...with more than 200,000 people but a median household income of $92k, and the even more monstrous San Jose metro area (Silicon Valley area in California), where almost 2 MILLION people have a median household income of around $90k
you're comparing metro areas now? how many millions in the NY metro area have income of $90k or more?!
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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you're comparing metro areas now? how many millions in the NY metro area have income of $90k or more?!
You tell me...I was just expanding on the statement by nicobellic...

From this list, it looks like many of the wealthiest large cities and metro areas are in California (3/10)

America’s Richest (and Poorest) Cities - 24/7 Wall St.

To be honest, it would be hard for NJ with only 9 million people (while CA has almost 40 million people) to even have very large cities with high median incomes...not enough people to populate such cities ;-)
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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jeez nico /somerset, the article was about zip codes not metro areas. my point was that short hills is big enough it could be its own small town even though technically its part of Millburn. Alpine is a town by definition but its really just a small collection of mansions with very few people. of course there are plenty of wealthy areas outside NJ and the whole idea of ranking them is pretty silly, could come up with a million different ways of calculating the ranking that would re-shuffle the order every time. again my point was just that its weird people keep bringing up alpine.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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what do you mean, exactly?
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Alpine has fewer than 2,000 people. It's not impressive to me to get a few hundred super-rich families to live in close proximity to each other.
Likewise, the it is not difficult to get 10k rich-ish people into one segregated town with a train station that has a direct train to work. Really. 10k is not as big a number as you are making it out to be.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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my point was that short hills is big enough it could be its own small town.. Alpine is a town by definition but its really just a small collection of mansions with very few people....again my point was just that its weird people keep bringing up alpine.
Small enough or big enough is your personal opinion. Just pointing out that what you consider to be a 'town' in NNJ is at best a subdivision in most other places in the country.

Yes - these surveys are stupid. As is the reaction of the residents of these places who suddenly try get get all puffed up.

And know what? The fact that they so eagerly look out for their town to be called 'rich' gives the whole game away.

When you are rich rich, you do not care much about what people think of you or where you live.

Those would be the folks who live in Alpine.

- Non Alpine resident
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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You said -

Likewise, the it is not difficult to get 10k rich-ish people into one segregated town with a train station that has a direct train to work. Really. 10k is not as big a number as you are making it out to be.
that wasn't my quote, but ok. 10,000 isn't a huge number, but it's the number they chose to use for the list. but it was towns with at least 10,000 people, so your argument that areas larger would laugh at Short Hills making this list is moot, because if that were true, those towns would have been higher than Short Hills on the list.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Small enough or big enough is your personal opinion. Just pointing out that what you consider to be a 'town' in NNJ is at best a subdivision in most other places in the country.

Yes - these surveys are stupid. As is the reaction of the residents of these places who suddenly try get get all puffed up.

And know what? The fact that they so eagerly look out for their town to be called 'rich' gives the whole game away.

When you are rich rich, you do not care much about what people think of you or where you live.

Those would be the folks who live in Alpine.

- Non Alpine resident
oh, they do care about what people think of them and where they live. i doubt that everyone driving a ferrari drives it because they love the engineering and craft of those machines. especially anyone who would drive them on NJ roads. people that are 'rich rich' absolutely care what others think.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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oh, they do care about what people think of them and where they live. i doubt that everyone driving a ferrari drives it because they love the engineering and craft of those machines. especially anyone who would drive them on NJ roads. people that are 'rich rich' absolutely care what others think.
If you are worth a few million, why would you not drop 100k on a very thrilling car. Ferraris and their ilk are very fun to drive, although not so much on public roads.

And folks driving a Ferraris really does not care about what the schlub driving the Honda thinks of them. They likely care more about what their neighbor driving the Lambo thinks about them.
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