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I can't comment on what NJ holds for the future but I can tell you it looks a hell of a lot brighter to us coming from Queens! Both me and my husband grew up in queens, and trying to raise our kids here has become impossible. That's why we are buying a place in Jersey and moving our family out of NY. You wanna talk about traffic??? try getting to a long island beach on a Saturday around 11am...or into manhattan at any time other than 1am-5am during the week (that is of course, unless they decide not to do middle of the night construction on the highways or bridges) Lets see, our public schools suck, our housing prices suck, our cost of living sucks. I can honestly say that the only people that afford to live here are either the super wealthy or the super poor...(our mayor does a great job of supplying those with no jobs a free place to live, free food, free cell phones, and now...free wifi. And I just wanna say, not judging, I have friends who take advantage of these free services) But if your a working middle class family, there is no way to survive here. So to us Queens folk, Jersey offers cheaper cost of living, amazing FREE public schools, places where you can purchase a nice
3-4 bedroom detached house with a big yard for $700K (give or take) And overall a better quality of life for a middle class family.
So I guess what I am saying is, the future of NY looks a lot more dismal than NJ, it all depends of what your comparing it too.
I can't comment on what NJ holds for the future but I can tell you it looks a hell of a lot brighter to us coming from Queens! Both me and my husband grew up in queens, and trying to raise our kids here has become impossible. That's why we are buying a place in Jersey and moving our family out of NY. You wanna talk about traffic??? try getting to a long island beach on a Saturday around 11am...or into manhattan at any time other than 1am-5am during the week (that is of course, unless they decide not to do middle of the night construction on the highways or bridges) Lets see, our public schools suck, our housing prices suck, our cost of living sucks. I can honestly say that the only people that afford to live here are either the super wealthy or the super poor...(our mayor does a great job of supplying those with no jobs a free place to live, free food, free cell phones, and now...free wifi. And I just wanna say, not judging, I have friends who take advantage of these free services) But if your a working middle class family, there is no way to survive here. So to us Queens folk, Jersey offers cheaper cost of living, amazing FREE public schools, places where you can purchase a nice
3-4 bedroom detached house with a big yard for $700K (give or take) And overall a better quality of life for a middle class family.
So I guess what I am saying is, the future of NY looks a lot more dismal than NJ, it all depends of what your comparing it too.
In reality traffic here is not much better, but the public transportation is less developed.
There is a reason, I don't what to own a 700k property. I know what the property taxes on it are like
Property taxes on a 700k residence is what a poor person would pay for 2 bedrooms (That might even have a backyard or a deck like balcony).
I think the future of NJ is like vision said, and well written. Taxes will and must go up. I think moving was a good idea you just may have picked the wrong place to move. If you need to work why not Atlanta area or The Triangle area that is growing like mad and has a much better cost of living or should I say affordability than NJ. I would not move back to NJ, I would look for my needs somewhere else. It takes a few times sometimes to find the right place but NJ, unless you have a great job or a public worker its a no brainer to stay out.
Two thumbs-up to what stevemorse said.
"I would not move back to NJ, I would look for my needs somewhere else."
You can't get more "south" than South Carolina — because once you pass the midpoint (very close to South of the Border) between NYC and Miami, the farther south you go the further north you get!
Thanks MaverickDD. I am now in the process of leaving NJ for the second time in my life. The first was a failure, I picked the wrong place. However the good news is I did tons of research, rented for a month and lived like a local and am closing on a house 8/28/15 and leaving NJ for good with no doubts and wrong choices! I am excited to leave NJ, just could not find the right place until this year and it took a lot of time and living there for a month. But this is going to be a great choice for me. I picked Raleigh , NC mid town, bought a beautiful house , one that meets all my wishes and now since my husband and I both retired young, this will be a perfect fit. I sold my house and im gone! SO its about doing a lot of homework and sometimes making a mistake the first time but not the second time!!
Thanks MaverickDD. I am now in the process of leaving NJ for the second time in my life. The first was a failure, I picked the wrong place. However the good news is I did tons of research, rented for a month and lived like a local and am closing on a house 8/28/15 and leaving NJ for good with no doubts and wrong choices! I am excited to leave NJ, just could not find the right place until this year and it took a lot of time and living there for a month. But this is going to be a great choice for me. I picked Raleigh , NC mid town, bought a beautiful house , one that meets all my wishes and now since my husband and I both retired young, this will be a perfect fit. I sold my house and im gone! SO its about doing a lot of homework and sometimes making a mistake the first time but not the second time!!
Interesting that you chose Raleigh as I find it similar to Central NJ of 20 years ago. Still to crowded for me but I always preffered more rural areas of NJ and just got tired of chasing those areas. Found the right place for us near Pinehurst.
Good luck to you.
With the crisis of the governor still not funding worker pension, he is only delaying obligation and ruining the credit rating of the state and creating more budget shortfalls in the near future.
The future is that NJ will be forced to raise taxes across the board. Casinos cannot bailing out the state anymore.
At some point the unions and dems will ask the Feds to step in and force Christie to pay up.
Wow another knucklehead comment. The problem is not Christie, it's the past previous 3 administrations never making payments. Christie needed to fix the problem by making payments larger then the necessary requirement. Wait until we get a Dem Governor who will want to raise social programs, now where will your pension money go?
Interesting that you chose Raleigh as I find it similar to Central NJ of 20 years ago. Still to crowded for me but I always preffered more rural areas of NJ and just got tired of chasing those areas. Found the right place for us near Pinehurst.
Good luck to you.
Yes I loved it because I felt it was just like the OLD NJ!! I love the vibe, amenities, and people. Im perfect for this State. Good luck and I guess we are both lucky to find the perfect place until it become like NJ too much! I tell you just checked out Pinehurst and it looks nice too!! This NC is a nice State!
NJ's biggest problem is going to be the migration of jobs out of suburbs. It forces more people into NY for work which strains the transit infrastructure while the state loses tax money. Its only going to get worse when malls and supermarkets are decimated by e-commerce. If we can get some reciprocation from the federal government to help us through the pension shortfall and infrastructure decay, we'd probably be ok. Otherwise, I expect a major crisis develops over the next decade.
NJ's biggest problem is going to be the migration of jobs out of suburbs. It forces more people into NY for work which strains the transit infrastructure while the state loses tax money. Its only going to get worse when malls and supermarkets are decimated by e-commerce. If we can get some reciprocation from the federal government to help us through the pension shortfall and infrastructure decay, we'd probably be ok. Otherwise, I expect a major crisis develops over the next decade.
I think you missed the migration of jobs out of NJ by about 20-30 years.
Former NJ major employers,
Mack trucks Plainfield
Ford Motor co. Edison (Metuchen)
General Motors Linden, Clark
Studebaker motor Co. North Brunswick
Hundreds of small tool co supporting those auto co's
Union Carbide Corp Bound Brook
American Cyanamid Corp. (Calco) Bridgewater
Johns Manville Manville
Smith Kline-Beecham Piscataway
Those are just the ones I remember in Central NJ but I am sure there are many more long gone in North and South NJ.
Since NJ is a major bedroom state what you really need from the Federal gov. is to build that tunnel under the Hudson so you can get your commuters in and out of NYC in a timely manner.
Major manufacturing is never coming back so work with what you have and that is a well educated white coller work force.
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