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I went and picked up bagels from a local place today. Guy said he'd been open since 6:00am, and I was his third customer at 7:30. He only made $200 the last couple days, and said it probably wasn't worth the money spent on utilities and ingredients to even have opened, but he has to try. Scary for so many of us - not just those of us newly unemployed.
My own employer may not make it through this, depending on how long we have to stay closed. While I'm hopeful that at some point I have a job to go back to, it's a big waiting game right now. I'm starting to wonder if some of the people questioning an extended shut-down have a more valid point than I originally thought.
Think about what your town looks like right now, and imagine it's semi-permanent. That's beginning to worry me more than getting sick.
I went and picked up bagels from a local place today. Guy said he'd been open since 6:00am, and I was his third customer at 7:30. He only made $200 the last couple days, and said it probably wasn't worth the money spent on utilities and ingredients to even have opened, but he has to try. Scary for so many of us - not just those of us newly unemployed.
My own employer may not make it through this, depending on how long we have to stay closed. While I'm hopeful that at some point I have a job to go back to, it's a big waiting game right now. I'm starting to wonder if some of the people questioning an extended shut-down have a more valid point than I originally thought.
Think about what your town looks like right now, and imagine it's semi-permanent. That's beginning to worry me more than getting sick.
The devastation to the global economy is going to hurt a lot more people and last a lot longer than the pandemic. There is no doubt about that.
I went and picked up bagels from a local place today. Guy said he'd been open since 6:00am, and I was his third customer at 7:30. He only made $200 the last couple days, and said it probably wasn't worth the money spent on utilities and ingredients to even have opened, but he has to try. Scary for so many of us - not just those of us newly unemployed.
My own employer may not make it through this, depending on how long we have to stay closed. While I'm hopeful that at some point I have a job to go back to, it's a big waiting game right now. I'm starting to wonder if some of the people questioning an extended shut-down have a more valid point than I originally thought.
Think about what your town looks like right now, and imagine it's semi-permanent. That's beginning to worry me more than getting sick.
my money says that when we are past this and look back; we will see that it wasnt wise to shut the entire country down over an illness.
of course, many will deny that and suggest that if we didnt it would have been much worse. we will all have to decide what we want to believe.
I went and picked up bagels from a local place today. Guy said he'd been open since 6:00am, and I was his third customer at 7:30. He only made $200 the last couple days, and said it probably wasn't worth the money spent on utilities and ingredients to even have opened, but he has to try. Scary for so many of us - not just those of us newly unemployed.
My own employer may not make it through this, depending on how long we have to stay closed. While I'm hopeful that at some point I have a job to go back to, it's a big waiting game right now. I'm starting to wonder if some of the people questioning an extended shut-down have a more valid point than I originally thought.
Think about what your town looks like right now, and imagine it's semi-permanent. That's beginning to worry me more than getting sick.
If we had a more efficient society, then companies and people wouldn't be absolutely devastated by a month or two shutdown.
If people picked jobs and created jobs based upon what is actually needed in society, and there was more normalization in pay (instead of paying government employees $150,000 because they have 25 years of 'experience'), well then ... you might only have to work 3 days a week and then not having to work for 2-3 months wouldn't devastate.
Ditto for government controlled healthcare and living above your means, and having a bunch of kids when you're living paycheck to paycheck.
I would ALSO mention that if people were allowed to diversify their training and employability ... well, how helpful would that be in a time like this.
my money says that when we are past this and look back; we will see that it wasnt wise to shut the entire country down over an illness.
of course, many will deny that and suggest that if we didnt it would have been much worse. we will all have to decide what we want to believe.
So California which shut down is flatlining with cases and New York and New Jersey which hesitated are skyrocketing. People are dying here. Many more are going to die because we didn't see what was happening in Italy and shut things down earlier.
So California which shut down is flatlining with cases, and New York and New Jersey, which hesitated, are skyrocketing. People are dying here. Many more are going to die because we didn't see what was happening in Italy, and shut things down earlier.
California & Washington state are simply ahead of us on the curve. Since the coronavirus originated in China; and since the primary hub/destination of most U.S-China transit is San Francisco (or CA generally, for populous); shouldn't the coronavirus have first exploded in the SF area?
...& spread from there? More likely -- it has been there much longer, but it wasn't known as coronavirus.
Many San Francisco and CA people reported heavy early Flu season, prior to January, going back several months :
Though I loathe publications that have a clear political bias (like National Review), that article is well written, and makes some very good points.
As for Italy, it's becoming clear why they've been such an outlier. This 1 hour long interview with Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University explains it quite well :
If we had a more efficient society, then companies and people wouldn't be absolutely devastated by a month or two shutdown.
If people picked jobs and created jobs based upon what is actually needed in society, and there was more normalization in pay (instead of paying government employees $150,000 because they have 25 years of 'experience'), well then ... you might only have to work 3 days a week and then not having to work for 2-3 months wouldn't devastate.
Ditto for government controlled healthcare and living above your means, and having a bunch of kids when you're living paycheck to paycheck.
I would ALSO mention that if people were allowed to diversify their training and employability ... well, how helpful would that be in a time like this.
That's great, but we don't have that right now. We have to decide what to do with the situation we're in.
None of us want to die. None of us want our family members and neighbors to die. Tell you what, though, I'm thinking we should be equally scared of this sending us into a depression. If that happens, it'll be far worse than the Great Depression, given our changes in population, housing, manufacturing capability, and jobs from then to now.
That's great, but we don't have that right now. We have to decide what to do with the situation we're in.
None of us want to die. None of us want our family members and neighbors to die. Tell you what, though, I'm thinking we should be equally scared of this sending us into a depression. If that happens, it'll be far worse than the Great Depression, given our changes in population, housing, manufacturing capability, and jobs from then to now.
If we never quarantined and 2 of your co-workers is having to go to the hospital every week because they can't breathe and have a fever of 103, and people are freaking out and not wanting to go to work ... well that doesn't help the economy either, does it?
People give their opinion that the quarantine is over-reacting, but they don't provide the alternative story.
How exactly does it play out? Ok, so XX,XXX old people die, and that's it? No, we need more. You have to give details of exactly how it plays out with no quarantine, and no restrictions on daily life. How does it play out with this thing bouncing around office places, bars, Chuck E Cheese without check? How does THAT effect the economy?
I don't mean YOU by the way, I just mean in general.
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