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Camden has Donkey's Cheesesteaks! Close access to Philly, cheaper. If I was going to live in a craphole, might as well go big and try the crappiest hole.
Paterson, definitely. My ancestral home in some ways (the people whose last name I carry moved there from Manchester, England, in 1863) and I grew up about 14 miles from Paterson and shopped there with my mother as a kid. I lived in West Pat for ten years and so I know the area better. Don't know squat about Camden except that I went to the aquarium once.
You walk through a bar where firefighters are hanging out into a back room with good Italian food and pizza. Some years ago I was there and saw the servers putting together a couple of tables for a larger crowd. Then through the back door came a group of nuns, who were welcomed as obvious regulars. Carafes of red wine were placed on the table and the sisters started knocking it back and all sorts of good food was brought to their table.
Haven't been there in a number of years, but I looked it up and was glad to see it's still open.
Reminds me of Duffy's Tavern, an Irish pub in Paterson, NJ.
IMO you can get better cheesesteaks in Pennsauken, Maple Shape and at Donkeys!
In fact, there's places in Pennsauken, Cherry Hill and Maple Shade that have won contests against well known Philly spots year after year based on blind taste tests.
I think a more comparable poll would be living in Camden vs. East Orange or Irvington even. I'd put them on par with each other on the ghetto scale.
IMO you can get better cheesesteaks in Pennsauken, Maple Shape and at Donkeys!
In fact, there's places in Pennsauken, Cherry Hill and Maple Shade that have won contests against well known Philly spots year after year based on blind taste tests.
I think a more comparable poll would be living in Camden vs. East Orange or Irvington even. I'd put them on par with each other on the ghetto scale.
South Jersey does have some great cheesesteaks! Even I think Pats has a location in Atlantic City. There are a few Donkeys around in south jersey not sure if its the same owner as the one from Camden people talk about.
Although these are bad areas Trenton and Asbury Park are apparently more dangerous im assuming not in total quantity but bad on occurence by population of 1,000.
That's why I'd choose Camden. It doesn't have a farmer's market but both Collingswood and Haddonfield have one. Both have a PATCO stop. I've taken my mom to both towns to walk around, dine, and do a bit of shopping. Center City Philadelphia is minutes away. I'm not sure where I could live. It doesn't have the nice looking neighborhoods that Paterson does. On a lovely day, I'd sit on a bench in Johnson Park and eat lunch while reading a book.
Paterson easily. Eastside park area has some beautiful homes and a nice suburban feeling.
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