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Bayonne is just like Hoboken.. glad I got out of that whole area
I was born in Hudson County NJ. *Secaucus
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Originally Posted by Retriever
Really?
In 2021, the median household income of Hoboken households was $160,890. Hoboken households made slightly more than Bernards households ($160,286) and South Orange Village households ($160,366) . 2.9% of Hoboken families live in poverty.
Yeh, Bayonne is like the last bastion of old NYC metro working class nabe really close to Manhattan. The views are spectacular because you can see all the ports with the ships and the cranes.
While the premise of this continues to be somewhat ridiculous (it's not worse than, say, Manhattan, for example), there are some kernels of truth. I'd argue 495, both getting onto and exiting from, is surely one of the most congested roads in the northeast. Only slightly better is 12th St. / Holland Tunnel approach in JC. I'm less familiar with stuff above the palisade, though Bergenline/JFK Blvd/etc. seem very busy but are at least usually moving.
I love Hoboken, but it's damn near impossible to get in or out of this town unless it's way off-peak. If I drive to the Short Hills mall, 50% of time spent is between Hoboken and the entrance to I-78, about 1-2 miles away as the crow flies.
The northeast NJ cities have NJ state parkway signs buried in their inner labyrinth, which, if you follow them, thinking of salvation and an open road, actually take you on a twisted tour of places you hoped to avoid.
While the premise of this continues to be somewhat ridiculous (it's not worse than, say, Manhattan, for example), there are some kernels of truth. I'd argue 495, both getting onto and exiting from, is surely one of the most congested roads in the northeast.
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I have a favorite restaurant in Weehawken, located right on the Hudson. The views of Manhattan in the late afternoon/early evening are spectacular, and I would go more often if not for the need to drive there via I-495, which is a travesty of travel at many times of day. That roadway might have been considered "decent" in 1939 (when it was built), but simply renaming an old, outdated highway as an Interstate highway does not make it adequate in modern times, with traffic levels many times greater than when it was designed and built.
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I have a favorite restaurant in Weehawken, located right on the Hudson. The views of Manhattan in the late afternoon/early evening are spectacular, and I would go more often if not for the need to drive there via I-495, which is a travesty of travel at many times of day. That roadway might have been considered "decent" in 1939 (when it was built), but simply renaming an old, outdated highway as an Interstate highway does not make it adequate in modern times, with traffic levels many times greater than when it was designed and built.
In 2021, the median household income of Hoboken households was $160,890. Hoboken households made slightly more than Bernards households ($160,286) and South Orange Village households ($160,366) . 2.9% of Hoboken families live in poverty.
They even connect to each other on the Light Rail.
I don't care about the houses (I'm sure they cost similar; we got out in the late 2010s) I'm talking about how bad traffic is while walking around and how they both lie on a body of water
Personal note: Theyare both overpopulated and overpopulated **** holes (as mentioned, Bayonne got old some time ago) and Bayonne being a peninsula... it and most/all of NJ should just be avoided.
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