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Old 03-20-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Warren, NJ
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A lot of places could be up and coming but never do. Phillipsburg doesn't have anything other than the homes to make it attractive. Most of the homes are small and don't have much yard space.
Its not going to be attractive anytime soon.
It's called functional obsolescence .
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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A lot of places could be up and coming but never do. Phillipsburg doesn't have anything other than the homes to make it attractive. Most of the homes are small and don't have much yard space.
Its not going to be attractive anytime soon.
It's called functional obsolescence .
From the sounds of it would you rather the majority of Phillispburg be blighted like they did in Hoboken or turn many of the rental areas into "condos" to attract the yuppies, causing rents to skyrocket? Exceptions of course for perhaps for the homes that are on the High School side of Route 22 and Steel Hill.

No, it isn't a perfect place by any stretch, but it isn't like living in Trenton, Camden or Paterson either.

Renn
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Phillipsburg is well placed regionally and could easily reinvent itself. There are plenty of Delaware river towns which have become quite appealing, maximizing their historial colonial appeal(enough of them, but no Bavarian type town in the NE at all). P'burg might want to follow the example of a town I visited in Washington state called Leavenworth. This town was really in the middle of nowhere and headed downhill. Now it's not only a regional draw, but a national and even international draw. P'burg at least is surrounded by small mountains for backdrop and it's location off a major highway on a picturesque river set's the framework.

Leavenworth WA

Can you imagine super-imposing this to P'burg? Remember that Leavenworth is very isolated and was arguably even more run-down than P'burg currently is.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:03 AM
 
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Leavenworth WA

Can you imagine super-imposing this to P'burg? Remember that Leavenworth is very isolated and was arguably even more run-down than P'burg currently is.
Thats pretty wild- they did the exact same thing to a sleepy little mining town about an hour outside of Atlanta back in the 60's. If you hadn't posted the name of the town, I would have sworn it was Helen, GA by the pics.

Www.helenga.org
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Hopefully when train service is restored later this decade or in the 2020s P-burg will come back as a nice Western Jersey Commuter town.
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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Hopefully when train service is restored later this decade or in the 2020s P-burg will come back as a nice Western Jersey Commuter town.
I keep holding out hope for the train. I moved from Madison, NJ where the Morris and Essex line stopped. It was 2.5 blocks from my apartment. I miss having the train at my doorstep and the availability to go to NYC at the drop of a hat.

Yes, I could take the bus, but I hate Port Authority with a passion.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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I always thought that Phillipsburg's problem is that "if you're that close to PA, you might as well live in PA" for lower taxes, insurance, etc.
I agree. It is too far to commute to NYC/Jersey City/Newark. Some of the outer suburbs of NJ could be done, but not all that many people work in them.

The major place of employment in the area is the Allentown/Bethlehem area. Might as well cross over into PA for the tax/insurance reasons like he mentioned, as well as being closer to work.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:46 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I agree. It is too far to commute to NYC/Jersey City/Newark. Some of the outer suburbs of NJ could be done, but not all that many people work in them.

The major place of employment in the area is the Allentown/Bethlehem area. Might as well cross over into PA for the tax/insurance reasons like he mentioned, as well as being closer to work.
No its not people commute to NYC / Urban Jersey form LI , CT and South Jersey. 100 miles is to far , but anywhere between 25-90 miles is fine. Of course a Railway helps in this.... People are less likely to move if there going to be driving that daily.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:02 PM
 
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No its not people commute to NYC / Urban Jersey form LI , CT and South Jersey. 100 miles is to far , but anywhere between 25-90 miles is fine. Of course a Railway helps in this.... People are less likely to move if there going to be driving that daily.
There is no railway... Sitting on a train, using your computer or reading a book is one thing, driving and sitting in traffic is another thing.

I know some people commute 4+ hours a day, but most people wouldn't. 78 becomes a mess from PA commuters. You got to be nuts if you are trying to commute from Phillipsburg to NYC (unless you work odd hours, ie arrive at work before 7 AM)
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:05 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I keep holding out hope for the train. I moved from Madison, NJ where the Morris and Essex line stopped. It was 2.5 blocks from my apartment. I miss having the train at my doorstep and the availability to go to NYC at the drop of a hat.

Yes, I could take the bus, but I hate Port Authority with a passion.
There are 3 lines planned , one is the Extension of the Morristown line form Hackettstown to Philpsburg. This line is intact and used weekly by Freight , it runs through Washington....it would be the cheapest of the 3 planned lines. Only costing 30 million $ & carrying at least 30,000 due to the Employment areas and Universities in Morris / Essex Counties. The Second line would be a restoration of the Raritan Valley line that used to run to P-burg but I-78 destoried part of the line so it has to be rebuilt and moved. This line and the 3rd line have Developers eying P-burg for a massive Development. This line is estimated to cost between 80-100 million $$ and carry up to 60,000 if extended into the Lehigh Valley. The last line is a branch off the Raritan Valley line it dips down to Flemington , it would probably be restored if the first to lines meet there goals. This should all happen later this decade / Early 2020s , a few things need to happen before this. Both the Morris & Essex / Raritan Valley lines need to have there capacity's doubled.
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